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Old 08-29-2009, 02:57 AM   #11
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Re: 17 & 19 hitch weights

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.. I wouldn't get the high axle lift though..
JeffZ, could you explain why you would not get the high axle lift? I believe you had that option on your Escape?
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Old 08-29-2009, 11:53 AM   #12
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Re: 17 & 19 hitch weights

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We had a Highlander and we believed that High Axle Lift really didn't help us for our needs.. we don't off-road it and felt that it gave us a bigger/taller trailer that increased the wind drag and possibly lowered gas mileage.. that was the main reason..

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Old 08-29-2009, 02:30 PM   #13
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Re: 17 & 19 hitch weights

I would agree with Jeff, I do have one because I do some gravel roads and a few unmaintained roads (trails). If you were only going to be going on roads, there is no need for the extra height, there really is a lot of clearance with a normal axle.
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Old 08-29-2009, 03:57 PM   #14
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Re: 17 & 19 hitch weights

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I was having an issue with trailer "bob" so I finally got my 17B weighed to check things out. Trailer weight was 3460 and tongue was 340 with 1 propane bottle 1/2 full and fresh water tank about 1/2 full (no gray or black tanks). Most sources say 10-11% is ideal but Reace tells me I should have more tongue weight to reduce the "bob". I find this hard to accept because the weight placard in my trailer says MGVW is 3500# amd max tongue weight is 350# which is exactly 10%. My rig is heavy because I am full timing in it and necessarily carry a lot of stuff, although I have since gone on a diet and jetisoned about 250#. I am not running a WDH, only air bags to reduce rear droop, and find my trailer tows beautifully.

My tow vehicle is an Toyota FJ Cruiser with 5000# tow limit and 500# hitch limit. I am getting 13-14 MPG towing, mostly in the Colorado mountains.

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Anybody got any comments on proper tongue weight? I especially would like to know if you agree with the suggested tongue weight being 10% of trailer weight.
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Old 08-29-2009, 08:42 PM   #15
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Re: 17 & 19 hitch weights

I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination.. But I do recall reading or hearing that 10% percent rule somewhere.. Hope your using a hitch pin especially if your getting a lot of bounce on the hitch..
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Re: 17 & 19 hitch weights

I don't feel I have excessive bounce, that is Reaces' opinion based on a related problem. There is some flex in any frame and what I am experiencing seems normal to me. What I would ask of a few of you 17B owners is check the tongue weight listed on the trailer placard. Mine reads 350# which is what I would expect to see.

Regarding the hitch pin; if I didn't have one I would loose my trailer in the first quarter mile. I believe you meant hitch latch pin. Yes my latch is always locked. I don't want to loose my home!

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Old 08-30-2009, 12:22 AM   #17
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Re: 17 & 19 hitch weights

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Yep you're right "Hitch Latch Pin"
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Old 08-30-2009, 02:55 PM   #18
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Re: 17 & 19 hitch weights

What is the hitch latch pin? I don't recognize this; when we picked up our 17A on August 5 Reace showed us how to hitch up, but I don't think the latch on the hitch contains a pin -- the 3-to 4-inch long lever on top of the trailer hitch pivots down & forward, then a smaller lever on top of it clicks into place in a rearward direction with what look like small teeth at the back of it. It appears to be some kind of over-center arrangement, so forces exerted by the trailer would just make it tighter. We've been checking that the hitch is fully connected by cranking the hitch up higher and making sure that the car follows it up to where it's raising the car above the point where it usually sits. Doing so also makes it easier to connect the WDH chains.

Although we'd ordered a hitch lock, Reace told us that there wasn't one available that fit this hitch.

If there's supposed to be a pin, where does it go, and can I buy it at an aftermarket place, being as we're on Vancouver Island and the trailer is stored on the Mainland.
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Old 08-30-2009, 05:25 PM   #19
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Re: 17 & 19 hitch weights

It's that lever that locks the hitch to the hitch ball (you pull it up to release the hitch) -- There's a hole in the side of it about 1/4 inch in diameter.. When you're pulling the trailer you don't want that lever to "pop-up" & release the hitch (like if you hit a big bump or pot hole).. I just use a "caribiner" (i think that's the spelling - rock climbers use them to quickly attach to ropes & loops)..

You can use anything that stops the upward motion of the lever..

It's a safety precaution..
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Re: 17 & 19 hitch weights


A carabiner doesn't require a key, but this does. It locks the hitch, at least from casual thieves. I use it when the trailer is off the hitch and when it is on. A padlock with a long hasp also works, but this one doesn't allow a thief to employ a bolt-cutter.

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