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Old 03-09-2018, 06:58 AM   #1
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19 Hitch height?

Hi all,

Now we wait for our new 19 to be completed.

Have not found the hitch height for the19 in any Escape docs.

I will include the anti-sway and weight distribution hitch for our Ford Flex as it is only FWD and not AWD.

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Old 03-09-2018, 07:06 AM   #2
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If my memory serves me, I believe it is 19" to ball top, check with ETI. I highly recommend an adjustable ball, you can then raise or lower spending on your trailer's weight, which can vary trip to trip.
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Old 03-09-2018, 07:32 AM   #3
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Escape could tell you for certain, but I think Jim is right.

However, I personally would definitely recommend not using an adjustable ballmount. For my bumper tow trailers I carry a couple different ballmounts, as it is way easier to swap out than change the hitch height. It would take a few hundred pounds of tongue weight to drop the hitch hitch even marginally, which would not be advised.
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See this post which confirms the ball height with ETI for a 2nd gen 19.
19" to top of ball standard, 21.5" with high lift

www.escapeforum.org/forums/f7/hitch-ball-height-11837.html#post227516
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Old 03-09-2018, 09:53 AM   #5
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Hi all,

Now we wait for our new 19 to be completed.

Have not found the hitch height for the19 in any Escape docs.

I will include the anti-sway and weight distribution hitch for our Ford Flex as it is only FWD and not AWD.

Tnx

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Not saying you can’t do it, but I think the Ford Flex has a max towing capacity of 4500 lbs. with the tow package. I personally wouldn’t like to tow that close to capacity, especially with a front wheel drive. I don’t think the gross weight of the trailer should exceed the tow ratting of your vehicle. Just my two cents worth.
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Old 03-12-2018, 07:12 AM   #6
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Load balancing hitch

Tnx for the comment and your concern Re. Flex as a TV.

Likely TMI...

We will not be loaded to the max in the new trailer so will not come close to the max 4.5 K limit.

When we Smart Weighed our 16 Scamp at one of the Escapees safety programs we only had ~325 lbs of stuff in our trailer. Most food items. We do not load every available space. Apparently average is ~800!

We towed the 16 Scamp safely with an older Ford Freestyle and we were right on the tow limit. Slow on long uphill pulls. Now with the Flex and much more powerful engine and tow capacity we will be doing OK.

The multiple seminars on safety were major eye openers for me.
I will always be suspect of the huge motorhomes on the road. Apparently, >80% of the stick and staple trailers, heavy-duty trucks and motorhomes are dangerously overweight with every cubby hole filled to capacity with loads of things.

As an aside, after living in the jungles in Central America as conservation zoologists for 25+ years we learned to live with minimal stuff.

It becomes obvious that most possessions accumulated are not necessary for day-to-day life and well being. So the "Small is beautiful" approach carries on with our FG trailer life now that we are back in the U.S. Our land-based house is only 1,000 sq ft. We were still shocked that we needed a 20' container to bring our stuff back to the U.S. Most was tropical hardwood furniture. However, books and research related materials were also a large part as well.

Carrying on in the mode of decades of heading into remote jungle field conditions where we only had a few changes of clothes for 3-4 month stints away from civilization continues for our new RV life. The One-bag travel dude (easy to find online) shows it is simple and one only needs have a few sets of clothes for travel.

We have recently re-evaluated our travel wardrobe and oops mine were creeping up in mass. I will in the future only bring 1 pair of jeans and move to only a few other pairs of lighter weight easy wash pants. DW already has her travel clothes reduced. Not sure why I thought 3 pairs of heavy jeans were necessary.

Granted our lifestyle may not be typical of the mainstream. For example, we do not have television or find a need to haul a gazillion lights to string up around the rig to scare off dangerous critters (?) or invade a site with masses of holiday decorations. But then again those of us choosing smaller FG trailers are not the mainstream folks of mobile suite RVers who travel with a yard fence, toy haulers, and everything but a backyard pool.

Looking forward to years of travel with our new 19 Escape.
Yes, Ford indicates that for a FWD only Flex that a load balancing hitch be used, so we shall. Escape offers several choices.

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Old 03-12-2018, 09:52 AM   #7
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Escape carries several hitches for 2" receivers. We brought ours up and it was wrong so they sold us the correct one for a reasonable price with a new ball installed.
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Old 03-12-2018, 10:22 AM   #8
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But then again those of us choosing smaller FG trailers are not the mainstream folks of mobile suite RVers who travel with a yard fence, toy haulers, and everything but a backyard pool.
I couldn't resist doing a little google search. Check out the 1952 Executive Flagship. It had a diving board off the top sundeck into a 10,000 gallon portable pool!

https://books.google.com/books?id=2C...20pool&f=false
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Wow, only $75K and 128 hp motor....amazing.
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Wow, only $75K and 128 hp motor....amazing.
$75,000 in 1953 is equivalent to $1.9 million today. I think the current two million dollar motorhomes are nicer, but they're not that long (65 feet)... although it has been done with a Prevost H5-60.

Performance expectations were certainly lower back then.
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$75,000 in 1953 is equivalent to $1.9 million today. I think the current two million dollar motorhomes are nicer, but they're not that long (65 feet)... although it has been done with a Prevost H5-60.

Performance expectations were certainly lower back then.
Using the Canadian inflation rate to calculate what $75k in 1953 is worth in 2018, it is only $705,535.71. If you trust the Bank of Canada calculator, that is.

Kinda funny, as I had that calculator open for others reasons.
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Old 03-12-2018, 05:23 PM   #12
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Using the Canadian inflation rate to calculate what $75k in 1953 is worth in 2018, it is only $705,535.71.
Good deal, then.
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If you trust the Bank of Canada calculator, that is.
I used some random USD calculator, and of course inflation and currency values vary by country. By any calculator, that was a premium RV in the 1950's!
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