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08-20-2019, 02:22 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2008 Escape 17b
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2015 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro Sport
Does this forum know if I can pull a 2019 Escape 5.0 TA, with a Toyota Tacoma, with a tow capacity of 6500lbs or does the trucks payload capacity come into play?
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08-20-2019, 03:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
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The Tacoma is a great truck, but seems to fail on towing the 5.0TA due to payload capacity. Allowing up to 800 lbs of pin weight, plus all the other loads, usually overloads the payload capacity.
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2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
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08-20-2019, 03:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
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Thanks, that’s what I thought.
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08-20-2019, 07:44 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: London, Ontario
Trailer: 2020 Escape 19
Posts: 1,120
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I owned a 2008 Tacoma SR5 for 9 years. I looked at towing the TA5.0 with it and decided it not a good idea.
It will pull a 21' Escape all day long. My only suggestion for towing a 21' is a weight distribution hitch, and a Scangauge2 to monitor your transmission temps. Your truck has a tranny cooler already.
I recently bought a Tundra 4.6L as the incentives are really good right now, if you can find one.
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Had 2 Escapes, 17b, 19, went back to a pop up that fit in the garage. 2018 Coachman Clipper RBST HW AFrame
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08-20-2019, 09:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bremerton, Washington
Trailer: 2019 5.0 TA
Posts: 1,141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J Mac
Does this forum know if I can pull a 2019 Escape 5.0 TA, with a Toyota Tacoma, with a tow capacity of 6500lbs or does the trucks payload capacity come into play?
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As others have stated, payload is an issue. I traded in my 2016 TRD Sport on a used 2017 Tundra Platinum when I upgraded from a 19’ to the 5.0 TA.
I am actually seeing about the same towing MPG performance with the new combo as the old. The Tundra 5.7 V8 doesn’t have to use lower gears / higher RPM as the Taco, and there is less frontal area for wind resistance.
The overall driving experience is more relaxed and safer due to the inherent stability of 5th wheel towing. I am a happy camper!
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- 2019 5.0 TA, 2017 Tundra Platinum.
- Bremerton, WA
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08-21-2019, 08:20 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: East Dover, Vermont
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J Mac
Does this forum know if I can pull a 2019 Escape 5.0 TA, with a Toyota Tacoma, with a tow capacity of 6500lbs or does the trucks payload capacity come into play?
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I too went from a Taco to a Tundra...with a short stint w/a Frontier(bad move...too much maintenance then a blown engine). I now have a Tundra 4wd 4.6 l double cab and it does very well towing my 5.0TA. Stock springs are plenty if you keep your trailer weight balanced and don't bring too many extras(I do carry a Honda 3000is in the bed of the truck along with a 30 gal water tank that sometimes I run with full) The Tundra gets similar mileage as a V-6 but has the power when you need it and runs at a much lower RPM. Now if they only made a 3.0 l diesel version with the Toyota long term reliability....
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08-21-2019, 08:30 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: London, Ontario
Trailer: 2020 Escape 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian and Sue
I too went from a Taco to a Tundra...with a short stint w/a Frontier(bad move...too much maintenance then a blown engine). I now have a Tundra 4wd 4.6 l double cab and it does very well towing my 5.0TA. Stock springs are plenty if you keep your trailer weight balanced and don't bring too many extras(I do carry a Honda 3000is in the bed of the truck along with a 30 gal water tank that sometimes I run with full) The Tundra gets similar mileage as a V-6 but has the power when you need it and runs at a much lower RPM. Now if they only made a 3.0 l diesel version with the Toyota long term reliability....
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They will never build a Diesel, 2021 a 30 Mpg Tundra Hybris is coming.
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08-21-2019, 08:42 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: East Dover, Vermont
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA!
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True, True. I would do a hybrid if they are able to keep payload up where it is while adding battery weight etc
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08-21-2019, 09:14 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Delta, British Columbia
Trailer: 2017 19'
Posts: 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arniesea
As others have stated, payload is an issue. I traded in my 2016 TRD Sport on a used 2017 Tundra Platinum when I upgraded from a 19’ to the 5.0 TA.
I am actually seeing about the same towing MPG performance with the new combo as the old. The Tundra 5.7 V8 doesn’t have to use lower gears / higher RPM as the Taco, and there is less frontal area for wind resistance.
The overall driving experience is more relaxed and safer due to the inherent stability of 5th wheel towing. I am a happy camper!
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How did you find the Tacoma 19’ combo performance when descending steep grades? We are contemplating a new tow vehicle and find the Tacoma appealing
Eric
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08-21-2019, 10:00 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: South Lake Tahoe, California
Trailer: 2017 Escape 17B
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Don't want to hijack the thread with a diesel vs. gas discussion, but if you are thinking diesel, the 2020 Chevy Silverado 1500 is the cheapest diesel option on a 1/2 ton truck at the mid $40K's. Ford F150 is another (more expensive) option. Ram is coming out with one as well.
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08-21-2019, 08:23 PM
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Freelton, Ontario
Trailer: 2019 Escape 5.0 TA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skyfree
... if you are thinking diesel, the 2020 Chevy Silverado 1500 is the cheapest diesel option on a 1/2 ton truck at the mid $40K's.
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Don't forget the 2019 GMC CANYON (or CHEV COLORADO) 4WD Crew Cab, Long Box, with a 2.8L diesel engine can tow 7,550 lbs, and starts at $40K USD. As others have said on this forum, this is a great truck to tow an Escape 5.0 TA. We just bought one to tow the 5.0 TA we just ordered.
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08-21-2019, 09:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skyfree
Don't want to hijack the thread with a diesel vs. gas discussion, but if you are thinking diesel, the 2020 Chevy Silverado 1500 is the cheapest diesel option on a 1/2 ton truck at the mid $40K's. Ford F150 is another (more expensive) option. Ram is coming out with one as well.
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Coming out with a new one? The Ram 1500 diesel has been available since 2014.
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08-21-2019, 09:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
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2019 is the last year for the Ram 1500 Eco Diesel
The 2020 Ram 1500 will have a newly designed 3.0 ltr diesel engine .
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08-22-2019, 12:11 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bremerton, Washington
Trailer: 2019 5.0 TA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric & El
How did you find the Tacoma 19’ combo performance when descending steep grades? We are contemplating a new tow vehicle and find the Tacoma appealing
Eric
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If it is a 3rd generation Tacoma, (2016 or later) no issues at all. 3rd Gen Tacomas have a 6 speed tranny that allows you to manually pick the highest gear. So you have great control in engine breaking, reducing reliance on the normal brakes. It is really easy to pick 3rd or 4th gear to keep your down hill speed in check.
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- 2019 5.0 TA, 2017 Tundra Platinum.
- Bremerton, WA
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08-22-2019, 12:58 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve dunham
2019 is the last year for the Ram 1500 Eco Diesel
The 2020 Ram 1500 will have a newly designed 3.0 ltr diesel engine .
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Thanks - so, an engine change. It appears to be an extensive update of the existing design, not an entirely new (or different) engine.
The 2020 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel Is a Torquier Version Of An Already Great Truck
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08-22-2019, 09:16 AM
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#16
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
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One auto website described it as 80% new with much improved performance
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