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Old 10-31-2015, 08:34 PM   #11
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I test drove one in case my 2009 was considered totaled (it will be repaired).

I'm glad I don't have to choose right now, the Atkinson cycle engine has a different feel to it. On paper, it seems more appropriate for the Prius crowd, than the Tacoma one. I have 110,000 miles of bias going; but I prefer my 2009.
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Old 10-31-2015, 09:45 PM   #12
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Ya , the day after I picked up the 2016 I kind of wanted the 06 back ... kind of .
The 2016 has a different power ban that will take some getting use to . After it clicks over 1000k I'll take on the hi-way for a little performance test .
There doesn't seem to be a user friendly place to put the brake controller . Will check at the dealer and see where it is suppose to go .
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Old 10-31-2015, 10:06 PM   #13
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Just checked the specs for the 2016 Tacoma's. They've dropped the tow rating to 3500 lbs. I think mine (2011) is somewhere over 6000.
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Old 10-31-2015, 10:42 PM   #14
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Just checked the specs for the 2016 Tacoma's. They've dropped the tow rating to 3500 lbs. I think mine (2011) is somewhere over 6000.
That is without the towing package. With it the rating is 6400-6800 pounds - depending on the model and configuration.
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Old 10-31-2015, 10:45 PM   #15
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Old Bag says if I get a new Tacoma I have to get a new wife, one that's about 40 years younger with three kids.
I got a new outboard motor for my wife


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Old 10-31-2015, 11:55 PM   #16
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I don't think you can compare the new 2016 Tacoma to any of the previous models. The engine (a 3.5-liter Atkinson-cycle engine) in the 2016 Tacoma is new. Slightly less torque, but more horsepower (2015 = 4.0L, 236HP, 266 lb-ft of torque) vs (2016 = 3.5L, 278HP, 265 lb-ft of torque).

I doubt one lb-ft will make any difference, particularly with the 2016 having a 6 speed vs 5 speed transmission...
I expect it will be nearly interchangeable with the previous version in many ways. The new engine is actually from the same family (the GR series) and an update of the 2GR-FSE used in various Lexus models; the biggest difference will likely be the speed it needs to run to deliver a given amount of power:
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  • 1GR-FE
  • 236 hp (176 kW) @ 5200 rpm
  • 266 lbft (361 Nm) of torque @ 4000 rpm
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  • 278 hp (207 kW) @ 6,000 rpm
  • 265 lbft (360 Nm) of torque@ 4,600 rpm
It would be interesting to see how much power the 2016 engine can produce at the earlier engine's speed for peak power (5200 rpm), or how much torque the 2016 engine can produce at the earlier engine's speed for peak torque (4000 rpm). Who knows - maybe the new one is just like the old one plus more power for a bonus at higher speeds.
For more technical detail on the GR engines, this is an interesting article: From FSE to FKS: the evolution of Toyota's 2GR 3.5-liter V6 - Kaizen Factor

One more gear in the manual transmission will be useful, but I doubt it will make much difference while towing - it depends on whether it is a closer-ratio box or a 5-speed plus one more higher gear.

The rest of the mechanical design hasn't changed much, because like almost every light pickup it still has double A-arms for the front suspension and a beam axle with leaf springs for the rear... it's hard to make much meaningful improvement without real change. Most of the update is presumably fancier electronics.
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Old 11-01-2015, 12:07 AM   #17
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Just checked the specs for the 2016 Tacoma's. They've dropped the tow rating to 3500 lbs. I think mine (2011) is somewhere over 6000.
The Toyota Canada specs for the 2016 Tacoma indicate that the 3500 pound rating is for the 4-cylinder models; the V6 models all have at least 6000 pounds of towing capacity.
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Old 11-01-2015, 06:45 AM   #18
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The Toyota Canada specs for the 2016 Tacoma indicate that the 3500 pound rating is for the 4-cylinder models; the V6 models all have at least 6000 pounds of towing capacity.
Looking at the brochure I think Toyota Canada includes the towing package standard on the V6.
https://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/secu...acoma/brochure

In the US the V6 without the towing package is rated for only 3500 pounds.
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Looking at the brochure I think Toyota Canada includes the towing package standard on the V6.
https://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/secu...acoma/brochure

In the US the V6 without the towing package is rated for only 3500 pounds.
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That makes sense.
In other Toyota models (such as our Sienna), the towing preparation package has been standard equipment in Canada, presumably to simplify inventory for our smaller market.
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The Toyota Canada specs for the 2016 Tacoma indicate that the 3500 pound rating is for the 4-cylinder models; the V6 models all have at least 6000 pounds of towing capacity.
Good to know.... Thanks!
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