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Old 11-22-2015, 06:26 PM   #61
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The Nissan diesel has me curious.

Me too, but preliminary pricing is putting it $50-60K, out of my range. What about the diesel Colorado or Canyon?
That kind of dough buys a heck of a lot of gas. 50-60k is a serious buzz kill!
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Old 11-22-2015, 09:19 PM   #62
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Me too, but preliminary pricing is putting it $50-60K, out of my range. What about the diesel Colorado or Canyon?
In size the Nissan Titan XD with the Cummins diesel would likely be a closer match to a Ram 1500 EcoDiesel than a Colorado/Canyon diesel. I only tried for a few minutes, but the cheapest I could configure a Ram 1500 crewcab 5.5' box 4X4 EcoDiesel (Laramie trim) was about USD$47K... and keep in mind the Ram has about 3/4 of the Titan's engine (in displacement, cylinder count, and power).

You might be able to configure the Colorado LT crewcab shortbox 4X4 with Duramax for about USD$39K. I assume the Canyon is a bit higher priced, with slightly better equipment.
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Old 12-20-2015, 10:22 PM   #63
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New 2016 Toyota Tacoma Tow Vehicle

We got a 2016 Tacoma this week. It took me three days to find the brake controller connection. The manual does not show the correct location and the harness model isn't listed yet by Toyota for the 2016 Tacoma. The kick plate under the dash forward of the driver's side door has to be removed. The plastic panel just has one screw and two compression fit connectors so is easy to pop off and back on. The brake controller connector is located behind another wire bundle. It uses a Tekonsha 3017-P wire harness which is the same as for the 2015 Tundra.

We haven't hooked up the Escape yet, but did pick up a couple feeder steers pulling a stock trailer which was around 3,900 Lbs. loaded. The brake controller was responsive and I was impressed with how well the Tacoma performed. There was some hitch sag, but the suspension was still good, there was plenty of power and the two axle trailer followed well. On my first couple tanks of gas I've gotten around 19 mpg around town, and over 12 towing. I'll have to report back when I have some more mileage with it.

Now I get the fun of making a decision on what WDH brand and model to buy for sway and weight distribution for our 19' Escape. Our last TV was a Ford Expedition which was heavy enough that I didn't need a WDH.
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Old 12-20-2015, 11:12 PM   #64
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We got a 2016 Tacoma this week. It took me three days to find the brake controller connection. The manual does not show the correct location and the harness model isn't listed yet by Toyota for the 2016 Tacoma. The kick plate under the dash forward of the driver's side door has to be removed. The plastic panel just has one screw and two compression fit connectors so is easy to pop off and back on. The brake controller connector is located behind another wire bundle. It uses a Tekonsha 3017-P wire harness which is the same as the Tindra.
Thanks for the info! I hope to pick one up very soon. Funny, I went thru the same drill with my 2010 Tacoma. Nobody could find it, 3 Toyota dealers, my local mechanic, one trailer hitch shop, and finally, a shop that had done a couple before found it. This drama was repeated again when I went hunting for the sat radio harness. Not cool. Then I stumbled onto the "silent recall" on the leaf springs. I wasn't a happy Toyota customer for awhile! All better now, we've kissed and made up.

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Old 01-03-2016, 03:54 PM   #65
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My 2005 Tundra has about 7000 lb towing capability and carries only about 300 lbs more than some Tacomas. I find towing our Escape 21 a breeze. If your Tacoma has anywhere near our 285 hp the Escape 17 will be a very easy tow. You may have to rev the engine a bit on steep grades, but you are actually pulling a trailer. I would replace my Tundra with a newer Tacoma if I didn't need the extra load capacity for boat, motor, etc.

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Have towed my 19 ft Escape over 50 thousand miles with no sway bar or equailizer hitch..averaged 15mpg and have been in 50 mph crosswinds and steep mountain passes...Tacoma v6...2009..Automatic...no problems.
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Old 01-03-2016, 04:18 PM   #66
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No chance we would be without our WDH as it transfers about 300 lbs. back to the trailer and up to the front of the tow vehicle, getting that off of the tongue.

All tow vehicles are different and everyone's loading is different for both trailer and tow vehicle. Few people know their weight numbers for a loaded vehicle and a loaded trailer and even fewer know their GCWR, or their GVWR, or load max for the trailer. These are easy numbers to deal with and see your towing situation exactly. For newbies, weights can be obtained at truck scales including tongue weight which should be 10-15% of total trailer weight. Some also get Sherline scales for tongue weight.
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Old 03-26-2016, 06:47 PM   #67
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April issue of Trailer Life has a review of a 2016 Tacoma pulling an Olver Legacy Elite 2 trailer. The Oliver is a heavy trailer compared to the escapes.
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Old 03-26-2016, 07:02 PM   #68
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Now I get the fun of making a decision on what WDH brand and model to buy for sway and weight distribution for our 19' Escape. Our last TV was a Ford Expedition which was heavy enough that I didn't need a WDH.
We have the Anderson hitch on our Taco and it works quite well. Simple to hookup, too.
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Old 03-27-2016, 12:34 AM   #69
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Notwithstanding my complaint about the 2015 Nissan Frontier engine/transmission characteristics last week, we used a WDH on my Escape 17B - even though it tows well without it. By moving the tow bar weight forward you also allow the rear leaf springs to flex the least amount - creating better ride comfort (and steering).
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Does anyone have any thoughts re: High Lift or regular axle for towing behind a 2016 Tacoma?
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