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10-31-2015, 10:49 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Sandia Park, New Mexico
Trailer: 2017 Escape 17B
Posts: 8
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2016 Toyota Tacoma
Has anyone towed with one of the new 2016 Tacomas? I'm shopping for a new tow vehicle for a 17B I'll be picking up next year. After reading all the posts from you fine folks on this forum, the Tacoma has become my first choice. Wish it were possible to test drive while towing.
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10-31-2015, 11:24 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Steveston B.C., British Columbia
Trailer: 2012- 17'B.... 2016 Tacoma SR5 TRD
Posts: 504
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I picked up a TRD 2016 access cab last sat. Probably won't tow till next spring . For a 17' It should be capable if not over loaded . My 06 Tacoma managed OK . For a 19' or 21' I would think V-8 would be the better way to go .
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10-31-2015, 12:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Surrey, British Columbia
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21
Posts: 699
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My 2005 Tundra has about 7000 lb towing capability and carries only about 300 lbs more than some Tacomas. I find towing our Escape 21 a breeze. If your Tacoma has anywhere near our 285 hp the Escape 17 will be a very easy tow. You may have to rev the engine a bit on steep grades, but you are actually pulling a trailer. I would replace my Tundra with a newer Tacoma if I didn't need the extra load capacity for boat, motor, etc.
Bob K
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10-31-2015, 12:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2008 Escape 17b
Posts: 1,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kmk7580
Has anyone towed with one of the new 2016 Tacomas? I'm shopping for a new tow vehicle for a 17B I'll be picking up next year. After reading all the posts from you fine folks on this forum, the Tacoma has become my first choice. Wish it were possible to test drive while towing.
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You may have to wait a few months for a review, in Canada, they only just showed up in the show rooms.
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10-31-2015, 04:39 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 2013 19' & 2013 15B
Posts: 2,634
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Devil Dog
I picked up a TRD 2016 access cab last sat. Probably won't tow till next spring . For a 17' It should be capable if not over loaded . My 06 Tacoma managed OK . For a 19' or 21' I would think V-8 would be the better way to go .
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Many six cylinders are perfectly fine for towing a 19'. My FJ works very well as a tow for my 19'. Others have used a Tacoma , Pilot, Highlander, 4Runner and various others. Thee concept that you need to have an 8 cylinder to tow an Escape is simply not true. For the 17' that the OP is buying, the Tacoma is would be fine.
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10-31-2015, 05:23 PM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 - "Felicity"
Posts: 2,945
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Later Tacomas with the tow package have a much greater towing capacity than earlier ones. My 2013 is rated at 6300 lbs (long bed 4 dr, 4x4 V6) and tows our 21 (4200 lbs loaded) just fine. I expect the 2016 should do as well.
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10-31-2015, 05:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Cochrane, Alberta
Trailer: 2008 Escape 17B
Posts: 226
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I tow a 17b with a 2011 Tacoma Access Cab, V6, standard 6 speed transmission. No problems.
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10-31-2015, 07:25 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21C, 2018 Ford F150
Posts: 5,363
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I don't think you can compare the new 2016 Tacoma to any of the previous models. The engine (a 3.5-liter Atkinson-cycle engine) in the 2016 Tacoma is new. Slightly less torque, but more horsepower (2015 = 4.0L, 236HP, 266 lb-ft of torque) vs (2016 = 3.5L, 278HP, 265 lb-ft of torque).
I doubt one lb-ft will make any difference, particularly with the 2016 having a 6 speed vs 5 speed transmission, but I'm also interested in any towing experience with the new Tacoma. The RAV4 is getting a bit long in the tooth!
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10-31-2015, 07:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Pollock Pines, California
Trailer: 2009 Escape 19
Posts: 453
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I as well am awaiting info on the new Tacoma, primarily in the area of ride quality while towing. I've towed our '09 19 since it was new with my '06 Tacoma Access Cab (4WD V6 Auto) and power has never been a problem. I had to add upgraded shocks, rear air bags, and a WDH to get a decent ride out of it while towing, however. Without these improvements, the rear suspension used to bottom out while driving on bad pavement.
Bruce
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10-31-2015, 07:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Old Bag says if I get a new Tacoma I have to get a new wife, one that's about 40 years younger with three kids.
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10-31-2015, 08:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Jamestown, Colorado
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19
Posts: 232
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I test drove one in case my 2009 was considered totaled (it will be repaired).
I'm glad I don't have to choose right now, the Atkinson cycle engine has a different feel to it. On paper, it seems more appropriate for the Prius crowd, than the Tacoma one. I have 110,000 miles of bias going; but I prefer my 2009.
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10-31-2015, 09:45 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Steveston B.C., British Columbia
Trailer: 2012- 17'B.... 2016 Tacoma SR5 TRD
Posts: 504
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Ya , the day after I picked up the 2016 I kind of wanted the 06 back ... kind of .
The 2016 has a different power ban that will take some getting use to . After it clicks over 1000k I'll take on the hi-way for a little performance test .
There doesn't seem to be a user friendly place to put the brake controller . Will check at the dealer and see where it is suppose to go .
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10-31-2015, 10:06 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Cochrane, Alberta
Trailer: 2008 Escape 17B
Posts: 226
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Just checked the specs for the 2016 Tacoma's. They've dropped the tow rating to 3500 lbs. I think mine (2011) is somewhere over 6000.
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10-31-2015, 10:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Phoenix Metro Area, Arizona
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19
Posts: 767
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy
Just checked the specs for the 2016 Tacoma's. They've dropped the tow rating to 3500 lbs. I think mine (2011) is somewhere over 6000.
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That is without the towing package. With it the rating is 6400-6800 pounds - depending on the model and configuration.
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10-31-2015, 10:45 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
Posts: 8,234
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Old Bag says if I get a new Tacoma I have to get a new wife, one that's about 40 years younger with three kids.
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I got a new outboard motor for my wife
Good trade
Dave
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10-31-2015, 11:55 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilye
I don't think you can compare the new 2016 Tacoma to any of the previous models. The engine (a 3.5-liter Atkinson-cycle engine) in the 2016 Tacoma is new. Slightly less torque, but more horsepower (2015 = 4.0L, 236HP, 266 lb-ft of torque) vs (2016 = 3.5L, 278HP, 265 lb-ft of torque).
I doubt one lb-ft will make any difference, particularly with the 2016 having a 6 speed vs 5 speed transmission...
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I expect it will be nearly interchangeable with the previous version in many ways. The new engine is actually from the same family (the GR series) and an update of the 2GR-FSE used in various Lexus models; the biggest difference will likely be the speed it needs to run to deliver a given amount of power:
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Originally Posted by Brian B-P
2005-2015 - 1GR-FE
- 236 hp (176 kW) @ 5200 rpm
- 266 lb·ft (361 N·m) of torque @ 4000 rpm
2016- - 2GR-FKS
- 278 hp (207 kW) @ 6,000 rpm
- 265 lb·ft (360 N·m) of torque@ 4,600 rpm
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It would be interesting to see how much power the 2016 engine can produce at the earlier engine's speed for peak power (5200 rpm), or how much torque the 2016 engine can produce at the earlier engine's speed for peak torque (4000 rpm). Who knows - maybe the new one is just like the old one plus more power for a bonus at higher speeds.
For more technical detail on the GR engines, this is an interesting article: From FSE to FKS: the evolution of Toyota's 2GR 3.5-liter V6 - Kaizen Factor
One more gear in the manual transmission will be useful, but I doubt it will make much difference while towing - it depends on whether it is a closer-ratio box or a 5-speed plus one more higher gear.
The rest of the mechanical design hasn't changed much, because like almost every light pickup it still has double A-arms for the front suspension and a beam axle with leaf springs for the rear... it's hard to make much meaningful improvement without real change. Most of the update is presumably fancier electronics.
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11-01-2015, 12:07 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy
Just checked the specs for the 2016 Tacoma's. They've dropped the tow rating to 3500 lbs. I think mine (2011) is somewhere over 6000.
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The Toyota Canada specs for the 2016 Tacoma indicate that the 3500 pound rating is for the 4-cylinder models; the V6 models all have at least 6000 pounds of towing capacity.
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11-02-2015, 12:06 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamman
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That makes sense.
In other Toyota models (such as our Sienna), the towing preparation package has been standard equipment in Canada, presumably to simplify inventory for our smaller market.
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11-02-2015, 09:21 AM
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#20
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Cochrane, Alberta
Trailer: 2008 Escape 17B
Posts: 226
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
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Good to know.... Thanks!
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