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Old 07-23-2019, 09:58 PM   #1
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2020 Lincoln Aviator Hybrid

Holy cow! This thing looks unbelievable. Rear-wheel drive, 450 HP and 600 ft.lb of torque- are you kidding me? If that wasn't enough you can put it into "Pure EV Mode" and have it run all electric. If the batteries start pooping out, well not to worry- it has a 3.0 EcoBoost motor. If price were no object....

The 2020 Explorer Hybrid is somewhat similar, however doesn't have the EcoBoost motor with the Hybrid and reviews are not as exuberant.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/resources...iator_Apr1.pdf
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...r-photos-info/
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Old 07-24-2019, 05:52 AM   #2
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Wow, impressive set up. Ram is offering an electric motor hybrid also but it reminds me of the saying "more complicated the plumbing, easier to clog it up".
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Amen Jim I prefer the old adage KISS
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Old 07-24-2019, 01:34 PM   #4
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Hybrid systems

The Ram system is a small "mild hybrid" configuration, which provides some assistance to both performance and fuel economy. This Ford system is a parallel hybrid with much more power, which will provide more performance improvement and has enough battery capacity to drive on electricity alone for a limited distance. The two systems are similar in complexity, but different in scale.

I don't think anyone will be towing very far, if at all, in electric-only mode. It must have enough electric motor power for somewhat acceptable performance without the engine when not towing, but my guess is that when it is hitched to a couple of tons of trailer the engine will start up as soon as the accelerator pedal is pushed.

Reliability issues seem rare with electric drive components, whether in battery-electric or hybrid vehicles, although there have been some issues with some lithium batteries.
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Old 07-24-2019, 01:39 PM   #5
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Towing capacity

The Aviator specs show that the towing package is not available with the hybrid (or at least that it doesn't affect the trailer weight limit), but the base capacity is sufficient for any conventional Escape. GCWR without the package may be restrictive for some owners with 21' trailers and significant passenger and cargo load.

I find it interesting that, at least with the towing package, a weight-distributing hitch is not required even at the full rated trailer weight.
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Seems to me that a hybrid is the worst of both worlds. You retain the mechanics of a conventional engine and add the lousy range and inconvenience of charging an electric.
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Seems to me that a hybrid is the worst of both worlds. You retain the mechanics of a conventional engine and add the lousy range and inconvenience of charging an electric.
But in fact you get the range of the conventional vehicle (plus a contribution from the energy in the battery, in the case of a plug-in hybrid like this, if you want), and you don't have to charge it if you don't want to. Even if you never plug it in, the hybrid system helps the efficiency of the gas engine (by avoiding idling, smoothing out power demand, and recovering energy in braking). If you do plug it in, you replace some fuel consumption with electrical consumption (which is cheaper and avoids gas station visits).

The ideal application for a plug-in hybrid is someone who routinely takes short trips which can be covered mostly by charging at home (where it is parked anyway), but needs long range for some trips... so if you mostly have a short commute or shopping but tow a trailer on trips, this is a good match.

The plug-in hybrid is the most complex drivetrain design, which certainly does incur a cost. If you only need the range of a pure battery-electric, and the high price is worth it to you, the battery-electric vehicle is a simpler choice. If your driving is all long highway trips, an engine makes sense for range and a hybrid system has little benefit.

Yes, the large battery of a relatively long-range EV is more expensive than an entire engine and transmission.

A plug-in hybrid could have one nice feature for towing: regenerative braking (using the electric motor as a generator driven by the wheels) could smoothly control mountain grade descent speed instead of engine braking, and charge the battery.
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I'm still waiting for a plug-in hybrid setup that allows me to tow, long enough electric daily range and ability to use the battery for other use while travelling (to power RV?)

That new Explorer hybrid is getting closer though...
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Every Lincoln made since like the mid 70s looks like it was hit with the ugly stick. The MTV Cribz school of design.
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I'm still waiting for a plug-in hybrid setup that allows me to tow, long enough electric daily range and ability to use the battery for other use while travelling (to power RV?)

That new Explorer hybrid is getting closer though...
I think it is unlikely that a vehicle of this style will have the ideal RV feature of a 30-amp 120 volt (or 50 amp 240 volt) outlet. It is technically feasible; it just wouldn't be used by enough buyers of a "luxury" SUV to make it to production. A high-output inverter like this is more likely in a pickup truck intended for work.
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