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Old 10-22-2015, 03:07 PM   #1
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I don't "plan" to tow my 17B on rough roads or in snow. I have not yet decided whether to tow with a pickup or SUV. Is 4WD important? Thanks.
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Old 10-22-2015, 03:11 PM   #2
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I have used it twice in 145000 miles. Probably would have been fine without.
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Old 10-22-2015, 03:12 PM   #3
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I don't "plan" to tow my 17B on rough roads or in snow. I have not yet decided whether to tow with a pickup or SUV. Is 4WD important? Thanks.

Interesting article in November Consumer Reports Magazine concluded that for most driving situations, it is the tires that are more important than 4wd. One of the dirty little secrets for snow tires is that their wet road braking capacity is very poor.
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Not sure how much choice you have.
I looked into Mitsubishi Outlander that a friend was considering. Only the top of the line, loaded model, had a tow rating of 3,500 lb. All the less expensive lines were limited to 1,500 lb.
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Old 10-22-2015, 03:23 PM   #5
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Our tow is a 4WD. Used it ONCE backing into a rainy, slushy snow spot. Would not have needed but it was nice that I did not have to tear up any grass or make any ruts. Have never used it on the road towing, even on muddy backroads. Reason ours is 4WD is resale. Around here most trucks are 4WD. Bought ours used and one has better selection of options when looking at a 4WD and not a lot of difference in fuel mileage.
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I don't "plan" to tow my 17B on rough roads or in snow. I have not yet decided whether to tow with a pickup or SUV. Is 4WD important? Thanks.
Steve,
We got a 2WD Honda Pilot for our 17A. It has done fine. Gas mileage is a couple of mpg better than the 4WD model. Tow capacity is 125% of what's needed for the 17. We have been on a couple steep grades and on gravel a bit. All works well; no problem.
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4 wheel drive probably is not needed 90% of the time, but the other 10% it was nice to have. If not going 4x4 I'd recommend at least a locking rear axle for those wet grass camping spots that will make your wheels spin...
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I have not ruled anything out (SUV or P/U) to pull my 17B. What mileage do you get when towing your 17A with your Pilot? Thanks.
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Interesting article in November Consumer Reports Magazine concluded that for most driving situations, it is the tires that are more important than 4wd. One of the dirty little secrets for snow tires is that their wet road braking capacity is very poor.
The Consumer Reports Magazine was comparing FWD vehicles to AWD; not RWD to AWD. There's a big difference between a RWD pickup and a FWD car.

RWD trucks are a whole other category because the rear end tends to dance around. With original equipment tires, RWD trucks can get stuck on steep wet asphalt roads. Seriously! Rear wheel drive trucks are almost useless in west coast snow. If it snows, you stay home. A locking differential and really sticky tires will improve the situation but its not ideal.

4WD trucks corner better in snow and gravel because you are less likely to break traction when accelerating out of a corner. You don't have to accelerate out of a corner, but if you do, it feels a whole lot better.

4WD trucks usually come with a low range which is really cool for slow manoeuvring on slopes.

4WD trucks can get off the line pretty quickly when the road is wet. This is helpful when crossing highways at uncontrolled intersections and racing road hogs at merge points.

Having said all that, the first vehicles to enter the ditch following the first snowfall of the year, are typically 4WD trucks. This happens not only in Vancouver (whose drivers are much maligned) but also in Calgary, Prince George, Edmonton and Toronto. Oak Bay is probably not a lot different. Over confidence is a big factor. Stupid is another one. Been guilty of both

This Christmas we're considering a run down to southern California if the weather is agreeable There's no way I'd be crossing those passes if we had a 2WD pickup.
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I have not ruled anything out (SUV or P/U) to pull my 17B. What mileage do you get when towing your 17A with your Pilot? Thanks.
Steve,
Our overall mileage towing is 14.2 mpg. This includes about 25% at 62mph on I-5, majority on 2-lane highways and by-ways at 35-60 mph; 4 mountain passes over 5000 ft., Tejon pass south of Bakersfield (4100 ft.) w/ a 6% grade. (38 mph, 4400 RPM--that's about 75-80% of full throttle)).
Non-towing-highway is 22-24 mpg.
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