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Old 04-12-2016, 06:05 PM   #31
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Believe it our not, there isn't a stock towing mirror for the Taco, nor have I seen or heard of an aftermarket version; it's an issue! The camera display is actually quite easy on a tablet turned sideways showing all three views.
I thought they did have them. I must be thinking of the Tundra. Nonetheless, a feature I love to have when towing.

I wonder if the place Alf got them for his Frontier carries them.
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Old 04-12-2016, 06:07 PM   #32
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The bigger problem with the short bed is the clearance to the cab. The short bed has 21" from the center of the axle. If you use the std hitch installed with the 5.0TA, the rotation point is ~5.5" in front of the face of the trailer, and the trailer will impact the cab at about a 45 degree turn, if you mount the hitch exactly on the axle centerline.
That makes sense to me.

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If you use a Reese Sidewinder Kingpin, the rotation point is moved back 22". The trailer will then impact the cab almost exactly at a 90 degree turn. Given, I'd prefer to mount the hitch FORWARD of the axle and I don't like pushing things this close, I've decided that the Taco short bed is simply too short. The Sidewinder demo video shows a great installation on a CrewCab pickup with a short bed, but this is on a full size pickup that has a lot more clearance between the axle and the cab.
I realize that the Sidewinder is no longer the plan (since I started composing this reply!) but...

I wouldn't consider the Sidewinder, but if you do, I strongly suggest asking Reace if the trailer's structure can handle the stress of having the support point swung out to one side when turning, and that it can handle the stress of having the pinbox greatly extended, and confirming that your chosen 5th wheel hitch is compatible with the twisting force (around the vertical axis) imposed by use of the Sidewinder (a Curt Q-series, for instance, is not). Then there are the weight and cost factors.
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Old 04-12-2016, 06:11 PM   #33
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I also have a Taco CrewCab with the short bed...
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I really didn't want to go to a full size for many reasons, so we're looking a getting a new Taco ACCESS cab. This is basically the same vehicle we have now, but the bed is 12" longer (same vehicle length). The distance between the cab and axle is 35".
You can also get the Tacoma Double Cab ("crew cab") with the longer box (same box as you have with the Access Cab) - the wheelbase and overall truck length are a foot longer.
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Old 04-12-2016, 06:12 PM   #34
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An Andersen Ultimate 5th Wheel Connection would be lighter, but it's still tight.
Know anyone with experience with the Anderson Ultimate? The rail version is advertised as only 40 lbs. and simple operation.
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Old 04-12-2016, 06:17 PM   #35
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I wonder if the place Alf got them for his Frontier carries them.
No, it doesn't look like it. A search of 1A Auto for 2015 Tacoma "mirror" doesn't find any towing mirrors. (The listed wiring harness is a generic part for multiple brands, and doesn't indicate that a towing mirror is available).
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Old 04-12-2016, 06:20 PM   #36
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Well, I might need to eat some serious crow. I just got off the phone with Wayne at Trademasters and discussed the issue. While no one on this forum has mentioned this, Trademaster routinely mounts the hitch for the 5.0TA BEHIND the axle to provide sufficient clearance for the cab.
Trademasters installed the hitch in my truck. I swear it's right over the axle. And I have the 5.5 F-150 bed. I'll see if I can take a picture... between rain drops. I've come dang close to jackknifing the two and haven't hit the truck yet (knock on wood).
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Know anyone with experience with the Anderson Ultimate? The rail version is advertised as only 40 lbs. and simple operation.
Mike (Scuba55) is using a rail-mounted Andersen Ultimate (looks like the steel version), and showed it in his post in Towing with a Ram 1500. Others have discussed it and are planning to use it (Jim Bennett has his "gooseneck" version installed and is just waiting for the trailer to be built), but I can't remember if anyone else already has experience with this setup.
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Problem with Taco short bed is it's only a 5 ft bed and the axle is only 21" behind the cab.
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Problem with Taco short bed is it's only a 5 ft bed and the axle is only 21" behind the cab.
Right... and the longer bed (standard with the Access Cab and available with the Double Cab) is about six feet long, providing that 35 inch cab-to-axle clearance.
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Old 04-14-2016, 05:22 PM   #40
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Believe it our not, there isn't a stock towing mirror for the Taco, nor have I seen or heard of an aftermarket version; it's an issue! The camera display is actually quite easy on a tablet turned sideways showing all three views.
Check the posts I had in this thread:
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I like my 4Runner + 19, but still think about owning a Taco or Tundra with a 5.0 TA though.
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