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Old 02-27-2016, 11:13 AM   #21
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The new Nissan Titan XD got mediocre reviews, particularly in mileage. Also note the carrying capacity of the 4wd platinum drops below 1500# for $61K? See here 2016 Nissan Titan XD Crew Cab Review & Ratings | Edmunds
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Old 02-27-2016, 02:11 PM   #22
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The new Nissan Titan XD got mediocre reviews, particularly in mileage. Also note the carrying capacity of the 4wd platinum drops below 1500# for $61K? See here 2016 Nissan Titan XD Crew Cab Review & Ratings | Edmunds
After test driving the new Titan XD and reading the reviews, its a big disappointment. And, its way over priced in my opinion...
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The new Nissan Titan XD got mediocre reviews, particularly in mileage.
Not surprising - it's big and heavy.

The reviewer's worst mileage, in city driving, was 13.8 USmpg. That's 17 L/100km, which is substantially better than my brother-in-law gets with his Duramax GMC Sierra 2500 in city driving, so it may not be so bad in context.

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Also note the carrying capacity of the 4wd platinum drops below 1500# for $61K?
The Titan XD has substantial structural and mechanical components, giving it a high Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR), but the truck is heavy so the remaining payload is not impressive. It is typical of full-size light-duty pickups without a special high payload package. With one GVWR choice, the heavier the truck (due to all the fancy equipment in that 4WD Platinum) the lower the payload.

The Titan XD does have a factory-integrated tow ball in the bed supported by a substantial under-floor structure... which of course adds weight, but at least that is already accounted for in the truck's curb weight, so you wouldn't need to use up any of the payload to add this part of the hitch system for a 5.0TA.

Did I mention this truck is heavy?
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Old 02-27-2016, 04:27 PM   #24
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I would be a little hesitant to accept this reviewer's information without checking it out - the review includes this:
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... Ram 1500 EcoDiesel remains your only choice for diesel power in a regular-duty truck
What about the Colorado/Canyon?

Also, the reviewer says the 4.5 (US) gallon DEF tank "may well need topping-up during a particularly long road trip"... but Cummins (the engine manufacturer) says DEF is used at a 2% of the fuel consumption rate, so this DEF tank will last as long as 225 US gallons of fuel, or 3600 miles at 16 mpg (5800 km at 15 L/100km). So if you drive across the entire continent, you need to stop at Walmart for a jug of DEF... shucks, that makes the truck unusable!
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I would be a little hesitant to accept this reviewer's information without checking it out - the review includes this:

What about the Colorado/Canyon?

Also, the reviewer says the 4.5 (US) gallon DEF tank "may well need topping-up during a particularly long road trip"... but Cummins (the engine manufacturer) says DEF is used at a 2% of the fuel consumption rate, so this DEF tank will last as long as 225 US gallons of fuel, or 3600 miles at 16 mpg (5800 km at 15 L/100km). So if you drive across the entire continent, you need to stop at Walmart for a jug of DEF... shucks, that makes the truck unusable!
A ecodiesel passed me in the parking lot the other day, very quite, didn't sound at all like a diesel. I've been lurking over at the ecodiesel forums, curious about the long term durability of that engine. Scott

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The 5.0 cummins diesel weighs approx 900 lbs and the Ram eco diesel approx 500 lbs . I would assume that the additional engine and structural weight eats up a lot of the Titan's payload . At the cost of $61 K , the purchase of a standard 3/4 ton diesel truck may make more sense.
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The 5.0 cummins diesel weighs approx 900 lbs and the Ram eco diesel approx 500 lbs . I would assume that the additional engine and structural weight eats up a lot of the Titan's payload .
Yes, although the truck could have just been built for a higher GVWR to fix the payload problem, without any increase drivetrain weight.

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At the cost of $61 K , the purchase of a standard 3/4 ton diesel truck may make more sense.
I agree, although that price is for the top trim level. I don't think Nissan is shooting for the lowest-price or even best-value market with this truck.
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A ecodiesel passed me in the parking lot the other day, very quite, didn't sound at all like a diesel. I've been lurking over at the ecodiesel forums, curious about the long term durability of that engine. Scott

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I'm curious about the long-term durability of the Ford EcoBoost engine. Just before I retired a man who worked for me bought a Ford F150 with what must have been the first generation EcoBoost engine. As I was starting to look at potential tow vehicles I looked it over. He asked me how much towing I intended to do. I said I didn't know yet, but probably 200 miles every two weeks. The truck's owner said that would probably be okay, but he wouldn't tow with his on a daily basis because he didn't think the engine would hold up over time. I'm guessing our lightweight trailers won't strain the EcoBoost too much, but I will be interested on how well they hold up.
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I'm curious about the long-term durability of the Ford EcoBoost engine. Just before I retired a man who worked for me bought a Ford F150 with what must have been the first generation EcoBoost engine. As I was starting to look at potential tow vehicles I looked it over. He asked me how much towing I intended to do. I said I didn't know yet, but probably 200 miles every two weeks. The truck's owner said that would probably be okay, but he wouldn't tow with his on a daily basis because he didn't think the engine would hold up over time. I'm guessing our lightweight trailers won't strain the EcoBoost too much, but I will be interested on how well they hold up.
The 2.7L is built very solid. Don't know about "long term", but in my case it's not a biggie - since I'll probably trade it in within 5 years for a newer model.
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These are the weight comparisons I found when shopping in December for similarly configured trucks (crew cab 4wd):

Tundra 5690
Ford 5659
Chev 5605
Ram 5662
Nissan 7360

I didn't buy the Titan.
Over the first 2000 miles with the Ram Eco-diesel, mileage has been 26.7 in mixed driving. No towing yet. Fingers crossed on longevity.
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