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Old 09-14-2017, 08:01 AM   #1
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5.0TA and a Short Bed... B&W with Anderson 3220?

Concerning a short bed (5.5ft) and the 5.0TA: Escape recommends a slider fifth wheel and also to use Trademasters. Trademasters recommends the B&W ball with the Anderson 3220 (gooseneck). Concerning the trailer hitting the cab on tight turns..... Does anyone have a short bed with the B&W and Anderson set up? If so can the trailer hit the cab on tight turns?
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Another question might be, "does anyone make tight enough turns to be concerned?". I've yet to hear of anyone really needing a slider.
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Another question might be, "does anyone make tight enough turns to be concerned?". I've yet to hear of anyone really needing a slider.
I quite often do, and in fact did last time I set up. I have no issue at all turning 90° though, as I have the 6.5' box and the Andersen Ultimate mounted with the ball rearward. I love having this ability, makes for lots of options in how to set up.

Given that this is the shortest box I have had on a full sized pickup, I would not consider shortly for many reasons, though do realize a few have issues with parking the extra 12" of vehicle.
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5.0TA and a Short Bed... B&W with Anderson 3220?

Our previous tow vehicle was a short box GMC Sierra which we installed a Reese sliding hitch in, we have never used the sliding feature to date and still have the same hitch in our current tow vehicle.


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Concerning a short bed (5.5ft) and the 5.0TA: Escape recommends a slider fifth wheel and also to use Trademasters. Trademasters recommends the B&W ball with the Anderson 3220 (gooseneck). Concerning the trailer hitting the cab on tight turns..... Does anyone have a short bed with the B&W and Anderson set up? If so can the trailer hit the cab on tight turns?
Do you have this truck, or are you planning to get it. I know that there are a fair few that use this short box, but for the reasons above, I highly recommend the longer box.
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Concerning a short bed (5.5ft) and the 5.0TA: Escape recommends a slider fifth wheel and also to use Trademasters. Trademasters recommends the B&W ball with the Anderson 3220 (gooseneck). Concerning the trailer hitting the cab on tight turns..... Does anyone have a short bed with the B&W and Anderson set up? If so can the trailer hit the cab on tight turns?
I have a 2017 F150, 5.5' bed, Andersen ultimate 3220 but with a Drawtite turnover ball instead of the B&W. The ball is 2" in front of the axle and ETI turned the Andersen adapter rearward which brought the 5.0TA closer to the truck cab than I had planned. Yes it could hit the cab if I jackknifed while backing up (no risk going forward) but with a little practice it is easy to avoid. I choose an angle between the truck and trailer as I start backing up and always want to be able to begin straightening the angle. If the angle is getting tighter and I can no longer straighten it by turning the wheel then I am jackknifing and need to stop and drive forward and regain control of the angle. That point of being unable to reduce the turning angle occurs way before contact with the cab. I've had more close calls between the pin box and walls of the bed than I've had with the cab. There are many reasons for choosing the bed length for your truck and hitch setup but for our needs, we are happy with this setup.
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I quite often do, and in fact did last time I set up.
Dang, there's always someone to prove me wrong. Must have something to do with the wide open spaces you folks have for campsites.

I have seen some big rigs having to do 90's to get in and out of some of the tight commercial campgrounds, thankfully not me so far.
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Dang, there's always someone to prove me wrong. Must have something to do with the wide open spaces you folks have for campsites.
Having the room is definitely a necessity. I would bet with the vast majority of campsites out there I would not have enough room. Lots of the provincial sites in BC and Alberta do offer room. I often camp with others and we get double sites and try to orient our RVs in a communal setup.
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i agree with Jim that having a longer bed then the 5'5" is preferable but i got the 5'5" bed because i am using my truck as my main driving vehicle and i already think its too long for parking in town. I am happy with my choice but i will have to be careful when backing in tight areas. I blew out my window in my old truck when backing a fifth wheel horse trailer once - its easy to do with a short bed. Just takes some caution i tend to get quick when I'm frustrated and tired often gets me in trouble when hauling!
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I have a 2010 F 150 Super Crew short bed (5'6" bed) with the Anderson Ultimate Rail mounted hitch. The center point between the rails is approx. 2 1/4" ahead of the axle centerline. My 2017 5.0TA has the high lift option. I touched the cab of the truck one time while practicing backing up in a parking lot but haven't been able to do that making very tight U turns. Like Jim, my Anderson Pin adaptor is reversed (ball rearward) and I was very worried at first but I like it that way now.
I bought Reece mounting brackets and rails and installed them myself. I'll be in the market for a new F 150 in a couple years and will look at 6.5 and maybe 8 foot beds then.
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