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Old 09-02-2019, 12:24 AM   #1
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Question Anyone tow their Escape 21 with a Honda Pilot?

We are planning to purchase an Escape 21, but really don't want to have to also purchase a pick-up truck to tow it. Does anyone currently tow their Escape 21 with a Honda Pilot (or similar mid-sized SUV)? The Honda Pilot has a maximum tow capacity of 5,000 lbs. with a maximum hitch weight of 500 lbs.

As we live in British Columbia, we want to know if this vehicle is sufficient, and can make it over the Rockies if we want to do a cross-Canada trip.

Thanks!
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Old 09-02-2019, 12:40 AM   #2
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Under the search bar you can put in “Honda Pilot” in the lower “Search Site / Google” box. You may get some helpful threads like this one

Honda Pilot towing 21' or 19'
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:26 AM   #3
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I have a classic E-21 which is several hundred pounds lighter than the newer E-21's. Mine weighs 4100 lbs. empty total, and the tongue weight is 500lbs. With your numbers you may be pushing the limit.
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My 2014 E21 weighed 4300# with 500# tongue weight, packed for 2 weeks, weighed on return from Osoyoos in 2015.
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Old 09-02-2019, 02:43 PM   #5
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At the risk of starting an argument. You need a rear wheel drive based vehicle with a frame. By the time you load the trailer, add bikes and maybe a canoe or kayak you will be unhappy with a front drive unibody vehicle towing a 21. You might as well start with the correct vehicle rather than trading up later.

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Old 09-02-2019, 03:13 PM   #6
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While it is possible to keep a 2nd generation 21 under 500 pounds of hitch weight, it will require some planning. When I headed out on a 8 month trip, my 2017 21 weighed in at 4800/500 pounds. By the end of the trip it was 5020/580 pounds. After unloading all thee junk picked up during the trip, I was down to 4700/500. I do have many options, including dual solar panels.

As to whether you will be happy with the Pilot depends on your expectations, and where you travel. I towed my 21 for the first year with a 2016 Tacoma (with the 3.5 engine). While it worked, and was within the tow limits (but the truck was 150 pounds over payload) I was not comfortable with the performance. Too much time at 4000 RPM, 10 - 11MPG, etc. I don't know what the gearing is in the Pilot, but if you do lots of hills & mountains I suspect it will work hard.

I loved the truck and really didn't want to let it go, but I now tow with a 2018 F 150 3.5 EcoBoost. A big improvement both in performance as well as 13 MPG (21 highway unhitched). If you go with a F 150, get the towing mirrors as well as the 36 gallon fuel tank. Lets you choose where to fill up rather than stopping every 150 - 200 miles.
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Old 09-02-2019, 04:50 PM   #7
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We are planning to purchase an Escape 21, but really don't want to have to also purchase a pick-up truck to tow it. Does anyone currently tow their Escape 21 with a Honda Pilot (or similar mid-sized SUV)? The Honda Pilot has a maximum tow capacity of 5,000 lbs. with a maximum hitch weight of 500 lbs.

As we live in British Columbia, we want to know if this vehicle is sufficient, and can make it over the Rockies if we want to do a cross-Canada trip.

Thanks!
I just remembered a video that helped us when we were looking to match our TV with the Escape 21. Previously, like Vermilye, we too, towed a trailer that was right at our tow limit and it was nerve-racking at times, especially in the mountains. It was 'do-able' but don't care to do that again. Was able to find the video again...hope this helps! -Bea
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We are planning to purchase an Escape 21, but really don't want to have to also purchase a pick-up truck to tow it. Does anyone currently tow their Escape 21 with a Honda Pilot (or similar mid-sized SUV)? The Honda Pilot has a maximum tow capacity of 5,000 lbs. with a maximum hitch weight of 500 lbs.

As we live in British Columbia, we want to know if this vehicle is sufficient, and can make it over the Rockies if we want to do a cross-Canada trip.

Thanks!
We have a Honda Ridgeline which is mechanically identical to the Pilot, and previously towed a 21' pontoon boat with a 115 HP outboard which weighed 3500-4000 lbs (depending on how much fuel it had) including trailer.

I found the truck worked very hard going up the steepest inclines of Highway 400 in Ontario, so I can't imagine how much of a beating it would take going through the mountains. More importantly, when towing at the limits of the vehicle's towing capacity, how safe is it going down hill? Even with tow/haul engaged, you run the risk of overheating and potentially destroying your brakes on long declines.

I love my Ridgeline (we've had three), but I would not recommended towing a E21 with it.
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At the risk of starting an argument. You need a rear wheel drive based vehicle with a frame. By the time you load the trailer, add bikes and maybe a canoe or kayak you will be unhappy with a front drive unibody vehicle towing a 21. You might as well start with the correct vehicle rather than trading up later.

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