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Old 08-02-2016, 06:01 PM   #21
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200 mile (300 km) range would drive me crazy.
While researching new vehicles I was surprised at the small size of the fuel tanks on some Toyota vehicles like the Tacoma and 4Runner. Until recently the 5.7L V8 Tundra only came with a 100L tank which made for a very limited range while towing; now it is available with an optional 144L tank.

Our V6 4Runner holds 87L of fuel. The other day I drove 649km from Merritt, BC to outside of Canmore, AB with an empty vehicle and used 78.4L - works out to 12.1L/100km. It is a mountainous drive and I wasn't too concerned about fuel consumption. On the return trip towing our new trailer I averaged about 15L/100km through the same mountainous terrain. I filled up every 400 km (60% of a tank) but that was more to get the cheap price at Costco in Kamloops. I was also less concerned about fuel consumption and more about finishing my 1000km journey quickly.

As a side note, on the trip east I pushed the fuel level to find out how accurate the "range" indicator is and discovered that it is off significantly. The range indicator reported 22km of remaining range when the low fuel level light came on. The manual says the light comes on with approximately 13.1L of fuel remaining so I should have had at least 100km until empty. It appears that the remaining range was calculated based on the current fuel level minus the reserve capacity of 13.1L.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:05 PM   #22
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No experience towing an Escape yet, but I'm hoping for 19 mpg (US) with the Touareg TDI and 17B. That would give me 494 miles of range (450 comfortably) with the 26 gallon tank (US). I think it's doable, but we will see.

Other comparables are the Jeep Grand Cherokee TDI and Colorado/Canyon 2.8 Duramax. Other threads have already discussed this but I don't think anyone has any actual MPG numbers yet.

As others have said, MPG is not the primary concern for most people so you need to match the vehicle to your other non-towing uses and usually buy for that. In the end there isn't a huge difference in $ between 14 MPG and 19, so get what works best for you all around.
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:13 PM   #23
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Range is important to be sure, but it doesn't directly translate to efficiency as in the OP's original question.

Having said that, I hate having to stop for gas all the time, so range is probably more important than mpg to me. Part of the reason I love towing with my truck - a max range while towing of about 550 miles. Not towing, it's over 900 miles.
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:22 PM   #24
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Like Iowa Dave we get 14 mpg with our 2011 Highlander and Escape 19 and have towed the trailer with this vehicle for about 25,000 kms. I think as long as you meet the towing capacity requirements of your vehicle, perhaps with a bit of a buffer, you will be fine. Anything more in towing capacity is more about the towing experience than ability.
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Old 08-02-2016, 10:01 PM   #25
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Range is important to be sure.
I agree. That is one thing I did not like about my Pilot, was the small tank. With either my f-150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost, or my 7-350 with the Power Stroke diesel, both having a 130 litre tank, I get just about 2 1/2 times the range that I did with the Pilot.

While towing, the fuel economies are not that different with the 3 vehicles either, but the Pilot would win hands down when not towing.
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Old 08-03-2016, 03:18 AM   #26
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Range is important to be sure, but it doesn't directly translate to efficiency as in the OP's original question.
Very true. Also, someone who is full-timing is likely (but not necessarily) traveling relatively small distances per day, so range is less of a concern than those on time-constrained vacation trips.
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Old 08-03-2016, 07:20 AM   #27
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When considering tow ratings, the manufacturers now use a standard called J2807, which specifies that the vehicle have a 150 lb driver and a 150 lb passenger and be able to maintain 40mph up a particular grade.

If you have only that amount of weight on board and are comfortable going 40mph up significant grades then you can go by that tow rating. If you have more in your tow vehicle or want to go a little faster, then you need to more tow capability. Very few people say they think they have too much power.

I second eveyone's thoughts about buying slightly used--except I didn't for myself. Test drives are great fun, but tough to arrange with a trailer, so narrow your search down to a few and ask again about those specific vehicles. Good luck.
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When considering tow ratings, the manufacturers now use a standard called J2807, which specifies that the vehicle have a 150 lb driver and a 150 lb passenger and be able to maintain 40mph up a particular grade.

If you have only that amount of weight on board and are comfortable going 40mph up significant grades then you can go by that tow rating. If you have more in your tow vehicle or want to go a little faster, then you need to more tow capability. Very few people say they think they have too much power.

I second eveyone's thoughts about buying slightly used--except I didn't for myself. Test drives are great fun, but tough to arrange with a trailer, so narrow your search down to a few and ask again about those specific vehicles. Good luck.
Hi Bill,
Although I slightly exceed the 150 lb weight standard, I was able to pull Wolf Creek pass twice on our trip to Durango and the Rocky Mtn. rally. I held her steady at 40 mph at 4000 RPM in 4th gear on the way up both sides. Temp was 88 at the bottom and 66 at the top last Friday forenoon. She did not downshift as long as I was steady on the foot feed. Going down, I self shifted 2nd, 3rd and 4th and only braked occasionally to bleed off some speed and RPMs about once a mile. As the old man used to say, "easy does it". Now I'm the old man. Hmmmm
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