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Old 01-13-2017, 09:32 AM   #21
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I could be wrong but my understanding is that diesel engine smoke is particulates
The particulates contribute to climate change (if you believe in it) due to heat absorption. I had an apartment in Europe with a balcony adjacent to a road. Every thing on the balcony would literally turn black from the diesel particulates.
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Old 01-13-2017, 09:42 AM   #22
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Old 01-13-2017, 09:52 AM   #23
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I'm a big diesel fan, too. When I hear people complain about it, it's always the smell. They say it stinks going in, and it stinks coming out. If the petroleum industry could make diesel fuel smell like peppermint tutti-fruiti going in and caramel mocha latte coming out, I think more people would get on the diesel bandwagon.
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Old 01-13-2017, 10:29 AM   #24
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The myth of " Clean Diesel is right up there with "Clean Coal Technology " and " Smoking isn't Harmful to your Health" .
No perfume will cover up the foul stench of diesel .
Diesel engines have their place and make sense for commercial ,industrial and work applications but are of questionable value in commuter vehicles. Diesel owners touts the MPG's they get with their small diesel vehicle but some how overlook all the negatives that also come with the vehicle .
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Old 01-13-2017, 10:53 AM   #25
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Diesel?

Last summer I replaced my Jeep Grand Cherokee after 93000 miles and only had a bad fuel pump relay once in that time. I again considered a diesel version to have close to 400# torque but again went with the Hemi engine but in the Dodge Durango because I wanted two wheel drive for the sunny climates. We now have nearly 6000 miles and I guess it must be broken-in since the trip to PHX and back 260 miles we got 22.6 mpg at 70 to felony speeds. The computer claimed 23.6 but actually it was the 22.6. We get 16 to 18 around town and 15 to 16 towing. Now if I could talk Nancy into switching her gas Fiat convert for an electric one if they start selling them in AZ. Now I'm glad I don't have the diesel and I hope our son-in-law can get his Jetta diesel sold back soon.
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Old 01-13-2017, 11:40 AM   #26
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The vast majority of the abundance of food we take for granted in this country is planted, harvested and distributed using diesel fuel. I don't think we will ever see a grain combine capable of harvesting 150-200 acres of wheat per day running on solar power. If we ever run out of diesel fuel in this country, a lot of people will need to start liking the taste of tree bark. Now I'll step back off my political stump.
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The vast majority of the abundance of food we take for granted in this country is planted, harvested and distributed using diesel fuel. I don't think we will ever see a grain combine capable of harvesting 150-200 acres of wheat per day running on solar power. If we ever run out of diesel fuel in this country, a lot of people will need to start liking the taste of tree bark. Now I'll step back off my political stump.
Transportation uses immense amounts of diesel fuel, trains, trucks, ships. As well, most of the US Forces vehicles are diesel powered as well. Diesel (or all fossil fuels) is a long way from not being used at all.
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Best of both worlds, a diesel in the driveway, and a fat bike on the ski trail. This mornings commute, a balmy -8.
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You said it Santiago. There are many reasons for the war on diesel in the US, but in my opinion none of them have anything to do with clean air.
Diesel - Clean Air Task Force (CATF)
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It's all a Machavelian / Communist plot secretly led by the Russians , Chinese , oil companines , government , auto companies ,environmentalists , vegetarians , radical socialists , scientists and Muslim extremist.
If you don't like dirty air just stop breathing & complaining.

My wife has COPD and has trouble breathing . Diesel exhaust fumes are a particularly tough problem for her . One of the reasons we moved from a major city to a rural area was to get away from diesel exhaust fumes as well as other pollutants.
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