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Old 08-01-2014, 05:51 PM   #11
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The Andersen Ultimate looks like it may be the way to go. Anybody know what the base dimensions are? Does the height compensate for the ball coupler you have to install on the kingpin? Does it need safety chains?
Hi: wayne_m... One of the many reasons I didn't buy a Scamp 5th. is I don't like the ball/socket gooseneck connection. I prefer the real 5th wheel connector.
We have a Husky 16K hitch and the EZRoller slider. Husky Towing Alf
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Old 08-01-2014, 06:35 PM   #12
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The Andersen Ultimate looks like it may be the way to go.
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Does the height compensate for the ball coupler you have to install on the kingpin?
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The general idea is that the Andersen mount, ball, and coupler add up to a similar height stack of hardware as a conventional fifth-wheel frame, head and pin. The Andersen coupler puts the socket (which goes over the ball) up ahead of the pin, not below it.
It occurred to me after posting this that the Andersen system is not adjustable for height, unlike typical fifth-wheel hitches which have multiple holes in their brackets so that they can be assembled within some range of heights. That makes knowing the actual height of the Andersen "Ultimate" hardware more important.

The total of:
  • height from ground to floor of truck bed, plus
  • total height of Andersen rails, frame, ball, and coupler
must be within the range of height that the trailer's pinbox plate can be above the ground.

Since I'm curious about this, I just sent an e-mail message to Andersen asking for this height.
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Old 08-01-2014, 07:33 PM   #13
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we also use the B&W Patriot hitch which allows some adjustment in the placement of the pin head receiver to gain a little more distance away from the cab.
I think this is a useful feature; the Patriot arms can be bolted into any of three fore-aft positions, with two inches between each position. This helps if you can't quite put the rails where you want them, or if you want to adjust after the initial installation.

The Andersen "Ultimate" system can do the same thing, but with only two positions; I don't know how far apart they are, so I asked Andersen that by e-mail today.
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