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Old 01-25-2019, 04:26 PM   #1
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Diesel Truck Battle (Non-HD): F-150 Diesel Vs. Nissan Titan XD

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Old 01-25-2019, 05:52 PM   #2
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🤔 Iíve done a bit of research on the new diesels and their emissions requirements. I just canít figure out why someone would pay a whole lot of money for the extra agrivation that you have to deal with just to drive a truck capable of towing 2 Escape trailers. I have yet to tow my 5.0TA anywhere that I couldnít be in the passing lane, and thatís with a little 2.7 Ecoboost.🤨
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I'm not finding any aggravation with my diesel Canyon. Filling the DEF tank is no different than filling up the fuel tank. I stop at my truck stop fill the Diesel tank, then when needed drive over and the young man fills my DEF tank from the truck stop bulk DEF tank. Other than the DEF tank nothing else different.

No Diesel smell, lots of torque at lower RPM and fantastic mileage.

Had a gas F150 towing a trailer and would never tow another trailer with a gas engine, but that's just me.

Loving the new Diesels in Regular or mid-size trucks.
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Old 01-25-2019, 09:24 PM   #4
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I agree that refilling the DEF tank is no big deal (in reasonable vehicles... some cars are another matter). The real issues are with excessive fuel consumption due to DPF regeneration cycles (which are not a problem for all owners, depending on how they use their trucks), and operability and repair issues when the various emission control systems fail... which they very frequently do. Perhaps GM's small truck diesel engine is working better than most.
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Old 01-26-2019, 07:49 AM   #5
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I'm not finding any aggravation with my diesel Canyon. Filling the DEF tank is no different than filling up the fuel tank. I stop at my truck stop fill the Diesel tank, then when needed drive over and the young man fills my DEF tank from the truck stop bulk DEF tank. Other than the DEF tank nothing else different.

No Diesel smell, lots of torque at lower RPM and fantastic mileage.

Had a gas F150 towing a trailer and would never tow another trailer with a gas engine, but that's just me.

Loving the new Diesels in Regular or mid-size trucks.
Hi: Kent... So far so good with my Ram EcoDiesel. Towing mileage in Canada around 25-26 mpg's and so far only used 5 gals. of DEF. Best highway mileage was 31.5 mpg not towing. I'm a happy camper so far. Alf
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:25 AM   #6
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I'm not finding any aggravation with my diesel Canyon. Filling the DEF tank is no different than filling up the fuel tank. I stop at my truck stop fill the Diesel tank, then when needed drive over and the young man fills my DEF tank from the truck stop bulk DEF tank. Other than the DEF tank nothing else different.

No Diesel smell, lots of torque at lower RPM and fantastic mileage.

Had a gas F150 towing a trailer and would never tow another trailer with a gas engine, but that's just me.

Loving the new Diesels in Regular or mid-size trucks.
The Canyon is not what I was referring to, itís the trucks with towing capacities over twice the weight of any Escape. Does the Canyon require the regular regen cycles necessary to keep the exhaust from plugging? That process is what turns me off to the new diesels. From what Iíve read as long as you Are doing a lot of highway driving it takes care of itself. But if you racked up too many miles at lower speeds your required to do the regeneration cycle which requires 1/2 hour or more high idle. And while doing this make sure youíre not parked over anything combustible. Now if if I had 15000 lb + trailer the aggravation would be worth the benefit but then I wouldnít be in an Escape. When it comes power itís always better to have more, than not enough, but 800 to a 1000 lbs of torque for a 5000 lb trailer? I donít get it, but thatís just me. What would peak my interest would a Ranger with a 2.7 Ecoboost
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Regen cycle, issue or not?

Anybody out there that actually is driving 1 of the new diesels that needs the regen cycle care to share your experience? Maybe all Iíve been reading about it is the 💩 you have get past to get to the truth😎
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Anybody out there that actually is driving 1 of the new diesels that needs the regen cycle care to share your experience? Maybe all Iíve been reading about it is the 💩 you have get past to get to the truth😎
Hi: Chotch... I've never been notified I needed one in over 10,000 miles. At 31 mpg's I do a lot of highway miles. My wife's Focus gets better mpg's but not so comfortably!!! Alf
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We have a 2017 GMC Canyon diesel. It is a fantastic tow vehicle for our E21 and is also our daily driver. The regen cycle is entirely behind the scenes and requires no driver interaction. We live in a rural area so we may do more highway driving than you city-dwellers. I have never been inconvenienced by or even noticed a regen cycle in 40,000 miles of driving. There was an emissions recall some months ago which seemed to increase the consumption of DEF but I have not noticed any other change in engine operation resulting from it.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:24 AM   #10
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Hi: Chotch... I've never been notified I needed one in over 10,000 miles. At 31 mpg's I do a lot of highway miles. My wife's Focus gets better mpg's but not so comfortably!!! Alf
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🤔just curious, how do you hitch the Focus to your 5.0? 😂
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