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Old 01-30-2016, 12:50 AM   #11
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Many thanks to all for their input. It has been very helpful. The key issue is the towing package. I talked to the Chrysler dealer and they said that a Chrysler approved package needs to be factory installed as it is more than the hitch i.e. increased oil and transmission cooling. I also talked to a hitch shop and they install transmission coolers so not sure if this would be enough.
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Old 01-30-2016, 09:50 PM   #12
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My experience with car dealers is they don't want you to know they don't know sqwat about towing with what they sell but are more than happy to say what they think you want to hear.
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Old 01-30-2016, 10:15 PM   #13
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My experience with car dealers is they don't want you to know they don't know sqwat about towing with what they sell but are more than happy to say what they think you want to hear.
I agree, but in this case this statement makes perfect sense:
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The key issue is the towing package. I talked to the Chrysler dealer and they said that a Chrysler approved package needs to be factory installed as it is more than the hitch i.e. increased oil and transmission cooling.
I don't know about the Chrysler van, but starting with model year 2007 an engine oil cooler is a critical part of the Toyota Sienna towing package, and it cannot reasonably be retrofitted to an engine not originally equipped with it.

Speaking of people who will tell you whatever will make the sale:
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I also talked to a hitch shop and they install transmission coolers so not sure if this would be enough.
Why would an aftermarket transmission cooler, not even designed for the vehicle, be adequate if the manufacturer of the vehicle thinks it is necessary to put in a substantially more extensive (and expensive for them to provide) system? If the "increased oil cooling" refers to engine oil, this is certainly more expensive and complex than increased transmission cooling (because essentially all automatic transmission vehicles have a transmission fluid cooler anyway).
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Company I worked for bought Chrysler products ( Caravans, Omni, Dart ) because they were cheap and the capital budget was always restricted. But, they seemed to have vast amounts of money in a maintenance budget for repairs. So, these vehicles were rotated through the transmission repair shop.

As far as I know, the fellow photographers who haven't taken the buyout are still driving Neons, purchased new in year 2000. That they leaked like a sieve, filling the trunk ( with about $30,000 worth of cameras and computers ) wasn't a problem until Nikon insisted on being paid for repairs.
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Old 01-31-2016, 02:21 AM   #16
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Company I worked for bought Chrysler products ( Caravans, Omni, Dart ) because they were cheap and the capital budget was always restricted.
That brings back memories, my wife worked for the same company and she always was driving either a Caravan or an Omni and, at one time, a Cavalier
Great deal for me as a spouse. Only had to take a test to pass their defensive driver requirement and got to drive the car whenever with free gas.

I have a brother-in-law in Calgary and a friend who commutes to Edmonton. Both drive Caravans and between them they tow, a fairly heavy ski boat, a heavy tent trailer and a heavy work trailer. The first time I heard they were going to tow over the mountains with a Caravan I thought "good luck". But I was wrong, neither has had any problems because of that.

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Which is why there is my pontoon boat on the car, and why I have such low miles on my RAV4.
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