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Old 09-26-2015, 03:06 PM   #11
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There is a little sag but not much, and we towed without wdh or sway bars.
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If there is sag then you need w/d. otherwise your headlights will be out of alignment.
How much sag? Put even one person in a back seat or anything in the cargo area - without a trailer - and the rear end goes down a little more than the front. There's no problem unless it is excessive.

If you have HID headlights, you likely have an adjuster knob on the dashboard to fix vertical aim.

The alternative to fix rear ride height (if that's the only concern) is air springs added to the rear suspension, if they're available for that model.
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Old 09-26-2015, 03:59 PM   #12
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We added airlift air bags and it helped correct rear sag . Very easy install.
I crossed the Rockies this week on I 70. I have the 5.7 Liter Hemi V8 and I found
it barely adequate. A lot depends on what speed you wish to maintain pulling up a long
grade. I witnessed many vehicles that could not maintain 20 MPH coming up the mountains
I've often wondered that if they had to come to a dead stop if they could ever get going again.
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Old 09-26-2015, 04:19 PM   #13
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Why was your motor "barely adequate"? crossed the same road with mine and had no issues pulling my 21'Escape. Did you have something in the truck bed??
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Old 09-26-2015, 04:21 PM   #14
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Yeah, good question. Steve, are you saying the Hemi V8 is underpowered?
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There's something extraordinarily wrong if an engine with the same power output as used to pull 20 tons has trouble moving five tons on the same road. Until not so many years ago, 300 to 400 horsepower was a big rig engine rating.
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Old 09-26-2015, 04:51 PM   #16
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All I know is that I have towed up long steep grades with my Hemi and with the Cummin's
6.7 liter diesel . There is no comparison, the diesel acted like it was on flat ground and never
struggled in the least , I cannot say the same for the Hemi. I've owned pickup trucks with V6
engines . They worked fine on flat ground when lightly loaded but not when loaded to their payload limit .Just my experience and opinion. My work trucks were always one ton trucks
with the biggest V8 available so maybe I am just spoiled ?
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Maybe, I dunno.

Towed our 19 with the 2.7L Ecoboost on some very steep grades in CO and NM and had power to spare.
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I do know that out west with the Ethanol additive I switched to premium and got better gas mileage, even with the cost differential. Did you not drive the hemi before purchasing to compare with your diesel experience?
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I do know that out west with the Ethanol additive I switched to premium and got better gas mileage, even with the cost differential. Did you not drive the hemi before purchasing to compare with your diesel experience?
I run midgrade when at home in Wisconsin . I ran premium when towing in the mountain states out west. My previous truck was a 2011 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 ltr Hemi.
We don't have mountains in the Midwest so I had no way of knowing how the truck would perform in the Rockies. Everyone has different towing expectations and I guess I expected
too much.
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All I know is that I have towed up long steep grades with my Hemi and with the Cummin's 6.7 liter diesel . There is no comparison, the diesel acted like it was on flat ground and never struggled in the least , I cannot say the same for the Hemi.
The current Chrysler Hemi has about 10% more power than the Ram version of the Cummins, but would need to spin substantially faster to produce that peak power (5600 rpm versus 3000 rpm) - although of course most people wouldn't use all four hundred horsepower and so wouldn't need that peak speed. If the transmission (or the driver) doesn't choose a low enough gear, the Hemi won't produce the power.

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Towed our 19 with the 2.7L Ecoboost on some very steep grades in CO and NM and had power to spare.
The turbochargers - on the diesel or the EcoBoost - help to maintain power output at high elevation, unlike any naturally aspirated engine (including that Hemi) which loses power in the lower-density air.
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