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Old 01-31-2019, 12:22 PM   #1
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Downsizing tow vehicle will I regret it

Hello. If this topic has already been discussed please just point me in the right direction. So I have been contemplating downsizing my tow vehicle from a GMC Sierra full size with the 6.2L V-8 motor (420 horsepower and 460 lb-ft of torque) to a mid size pickup like the Ranger, Tacoma or Colorado. I'm towing an Escape 19. During the summer months I travel full time with my wife and dog around Colorado, Utah, Montana, Washington, Oregon, Idaho etc. Places with real mountains. We hike, SUP, mountain bike, explore towns, explore wilderness. With that in mind here is my list of pros and cons:

My gut tells me downsizing is a bad idea but I figured it would be fun to have the conversation. Any thoughts or opinions are greatly appreciated. Feel free to add anything I may not have thought of. Thanks in advance.

Pros:
Mid size truck much easier getting around while not trailing the camper.
Theoretically mid size truck will have better fuel economy when not trailing the camper. I currently get 14mpg around town and 20mpg on the highway while not towing.
Something better offroad. My current truck is decent off road but I would get something like the Tacoma TRD Pro. Something that will make me more comfortable exploring off the beaten path.
Current truck easily pulls the camper and I feel secure knowing the truck is much heavier than the camper.
Cheaper maintenance costs

Cons
I'm concerned that I will get worse fuel economy with a mid size truck while towing the Escape 19.
My fuel range will be much shorter.
I'm concerned that coming from a full size truck I will feel like I just don't have enough power. With the full size I feel very comfortable merging onto highways or passing if I have to while towing. I usually drive 65mph even when the speed limit is 80mph while towing.
With the mid size truck I'll probably feel the trailer a lot more. Now I don't even know it's there.
Lower payload capacity although I don't think this will be an issue but something I need to consider.
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We don’t like the feeling of being crammed into a vehicle .
We looked at and rode in small trucks and for long days of traveling / towing ( 4 or more hours) they just didn’t work for us .
We are looking at replacing our 2014 Ram with a 2019 Ram mainly because the new models have more interior passenger room , which appeals to us .
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Old 01-31-2019, 12:49 PM   #3
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We donít like the feeling of being crammed into a vehicle .
We looked at and rode in small trucks and for long days of traveling / towing ( 4 or more hours) they just didnít work for us .
We are looking at replacing our 2014 Ram with a 2019 Ram mainly because the new models have more interior passenger room , which appeals to us .
This is a great point. Thanks.
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Old 01-31-2019, 12:58 PM   #4
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I too thought of and even drove the Tacoma, very disappointed. The older motor was a lot more responsive vs the new Atkinson cycle motor. A lot smaller than the full size, no integrated brake controller nor tow package. My 2014 Ram will be paid off in 2 more payments, and it keeps getting better mileage as I put more on it, now up to 28,000 miles and avg 20/15 unhitched/hitched. I'm staying until I either need major repair or the new Bronco comes out.
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Old 01-31-2019, 01:02 PM   #5
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When going to a small truck (either upsizing or downsizing) watch for the payload. It is easy to overload a mid sized (or even some full sized smaller) truck long before you reach the tow capacity. For example, my previous tow (a 2016 Tacoma Off Road) was fine with my 17, but not too happy with a 21. Still close to 1500 pounds of extra tow capacity, but 150 pounds + overloaded on payload.

While I miss the smaller size of the Tacoma (and I never felt crammed in, my current F150 3.5 EcoBoost is far more practical.
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Old 01-31-2019, 01:14 PM   #6
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I tow our 21 with a 2017 Tundra. It tows it beautifully. I never have to worry about not having enough power. Or space in the truck for stuff. I've even used it while vending at craft shows out of town with the trailer and I have plenty of room for trailer stuff and my clocks (and tables and display racks and podium, etc).


I do have to be a bit careful driving it around town as it's larger than my FJ, but it's still quite do-able. We got the TRD option. I've not taken it off-roading as that's not my style, but it did handle the very twisty, tight, potholes filled and muddy road I took through the Redwoods in Crescent City CA last year.


I know you didn't mention a Tundra, but thought I'd throw that out since you mentioned a Tacoma. I couldn't tell ya mileage as I never pay attention to that. Ours came with the extra large gas tank and towing package as part of it. I just know I'd rather have more power than not enough.
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Old 01-31-2019, 02:00 PM   #7
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I have mentioned this before and I will say it again. No matter what size or model of truck you look at, check that you can spread your feet sideways in the passenger side for the long haul.

For many years I was a Dodge guy, then went shopping for a full size new truck and found that the transmission hup was so big on the Dodge passenger side that I had to sit side saddle with my left foot cramped up beside my right. My wife likes to drive also and there was no way I was going to sit like that for 5 hours. Went to the Ford dealer and the hup was way smaller making for much more slide foot room in the F150.
I have no idea what the passenger side is like in the Dodges now, but this is something to consider in all makes of trucks big or small. Sit in the passenger side before you buy.

Also I believe Toyota was mounting the starter inside the engine under the intake manifold for some time. This made for a huge and expensive job to replace a simple starter. I know engines are complicated theses days but that design is just not something that I want to deal with in the future.
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Old 01-31-2019, 02:06 PM   #8
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I too thought of and even drove the Tacoma, very disappointed.
Thanks this helps.

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When going to a small truck (either upsizing or downsizing) watch for the payload.
This is something I am concerned about so I'll have to pay close attention to the payload.

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I have mentioned this before and I will say it again. No matter what size or model of truck you look at, check that you can spread your feet sideways in the passenger side for the long haul.
I wish I could get my wife to drive...haha. I know exactly what your talking about with the hump on the driver side. Something I didn't think of but I will keep that in the back of my mind now.
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I tow our 21 with a 2017 Tundra....I know you didn't mention a Tundra, but thought I'd throw that out since you mentioned a Tacoma. I couldn't tell ya mileage as I never pay attention to that. Ours came with the extra large gas tank and towing package as part of it. I just know I'd rather have more power than not enough.
I have looked online at the Tundras. I think I'll have to look at them and keep my options open. Thanks for mentioning power because this is my biggest concern. While drive through some of the longer and higher mountain passes I have no problem maintaining speed with no complaints from the motor. I've seen way too many RVers going 10mph up the mountains and their tow vehicle is screaming.
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Old 01-31-2019, 02:14 PM   #10
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Maybe I'll just have to get a Ford Raptor . I can't believe how expensive trucks are now.
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