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10-04-2018, 03:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Ocean Park, Maine
Trailer: 21NE picked up in May 2022
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimHol58
Just curious, my 2011 E19 has 14" tires. Can these be upgraded to 15" tires?
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I also have a 1979VW Camper bus (actually 2 of them) which runs 195R14 Hancooks RA18 tires on 14" wheels. Since they are a "commercial tire" there is no middle aspect ratio but if there was it would be about 82 and would make them about 195/82/14. They are pretty meaty 8 ply tires and at 65 psi will support something like 2100 pounds with a 26.2" circumference. About $100 a pop.
Just another option.
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10-04-2018, 03:59 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
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Tires
Costs money to go racing. When you buy tires, tell the tire guy you will check the code dated tires and expect them to be no older than XX months. And you’ll be checking them before signing the credit card. If they don’t like it, find another tire dealer. The point is, if you feel screwed at the time you buy something you’ll probably not feel that good the whole time you own it. The merchant works for you not the other way around. Personally we don’t worry about it because we wear them out before they age out. And I rotate the spare in to get the good out of it too. Tire dealers kids need shoes too.
Iowa Dave
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10-04-2018, 05:26 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
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Best to always check code dates on any tires you purchase before you pay and they install tires the age of the tires is what you need to be concerned about dealers putting on tires that are not new is unethical tires that are 6 months is ok with us and reasonable Pat
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10-04-2018, 06:01 PM
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Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
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I suspect "aging out" takes a lot longer in temperate climes than in southern US. Tires that are stored in a warehouse suffer less than those exposed on a trailer in the driveway.
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10-04-2018, 06:23 PM
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#45
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Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mid Left Coast, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy in Maine
I also have a 1979VW Camper bus (actually 2 of them) which runs 195R14 Hancooks RA18 tires on 14" wheels. Since they are a "commercial tire" there is no middle aspect ratio but if there was it would be about 82 and would make them about 195/82/14. They are pretty meaty 8 ply tires and at 65 psi will support something like 2100 pounds with a 26.2" circumference. About $100 a pop.
Just another option.
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there are very few tires left in that old VW bus size..
my kid upgraded his Vanagon to 16" wheels with a mild lift and offroad shocks so he could mount BF Goodrich KO2 all/terrain tires, LT215/70-16 ... they hugely improved the ride and handling both on and offroad over the original skinny hard things.
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10-04-2018, 06:53 PM
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#46
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy in Maine
I also have a 1979VW Camper bus (actually 2 of them) which runs 195R14 Hancooks RA18 tires on 14" wheels. Since they are a "commercial tire" there is no middle aspect ratio but if there was it would be about 82 and would make them about 195/82/14.
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The designation without an aspect ratio is just one of the several size designation systems. There were car tires designated this way, too.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy in Maine
They are pretty meaty 8 ply tires and at 65 psi will support something like 2100 pounds with a 26.2" circumference.
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That's an 8-ply rating (not 8 actual plies of reinforcing cord), which means Load Range D. In the stock Escape size Load Range C is more than enough, but with a narrower tires the higher load range and inflation pressure might be needed.
The RA18 has come up in discussions of commercial tires as alternative tires for trailers, probably in this forum and definitely in FiberglassRV. The Kumho 857 was a popular choice but may have been discontinued, and there are others.
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10-04-2018, 07:07 PM
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#47
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Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mid Left Coast, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
The designation without an aspect ratio is just one of the several size designation systems. There were car tires designated this way, too.
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yup, most car tires prior to circa 1980 had no specified aspect ratio, which made then /82 to /85 ... I'm thinking my old VW squareback used 165R15
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10-05-2018, 09:28 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Mtns of NC, North Carolina
Trailer: 2013 19' Escape 1977 Trillium 1300
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Old tires on a vintage trailer I just bought. Tread showed zero wear, but tires were rotten. Changed tires in the seller's driveway before leaving. Date code was either 1994 or 1984.
1977 Trillium 1300 by wrk101, on Flickr
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10-05-2018, 10:35 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
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Tire game
Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
yup, most car tires prior to circa 1980 had no specified aspect ratio, which made then /82 to /85 ... I'm thinking my old VW squareback used 165R15
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And back before that, before the the radials, they were just 760/15 or whatever (760/15s were on the Buicks), the tread width by the wheel diameter. The big Chrysler wagons were 900s. But that’s a story for another time. BF Goodrich Super All Tractions, they were mud and snow digging machines. 500lbs. of sand in the back of a two wheel drive Flathead Ford F-1 pickup and you could really get lost.
Iowa Dave
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10-05-2018, 11:15 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 2013 19' & 2013 15B
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NCBill
Old tires on a vintage trailer I just bought. Tread showed zero wear, but tires were rotten. Changed tires in the seller's driveway before leaving. Date code was either 1994 or 1984.
1977 Trillium 1300 by wrk101, on Flickr
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A little bit of rubber filler/sealant and those cracks will disappear and they should be good for another 20 years.
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10-05-2018, 12:32 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Appleton, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018
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Trailer Speed
On the way home from Escape to Wisconsin there are highways you can go 80 mph. I did 75 mph and was bragging to my son how well the 5.0 TA towed. He checked the trailer tires, came in and said Dad you should tone down the speed. Trailer tires not rated that high. I took his advice as he tows a three axle 35' Airstream.
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10-05-2018, 01:08 PM
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#52
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
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Quote:
Originally Posted by William G
On the way home from Escape to Wisconsin there are highways you can go 80 mph. I did 75 mph and was bragging to my son how well the 5.0 TA towed. He checked the trailer tires, came in and said Dad you should tone down the speed. Trailer tires not rated that high.
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Tires made to the Tire & Rim Association's Special Trailer (ST) standards have a speed rating of 65 miles per hour, unless otherwise marked with a speed rating. Recently some ST tires have appeared with higher ratings, such as the Carlisle Radial Trail HD (81 mph, or index M) and the Goodyear Endurance (index N, or 87 mph).
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10-05-2018, 04:10 PM
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#53
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
Best to always check code dates on any tires you purchase before you pay and they install tires the age of the tires is what you need to be concerned about dealers putting on tires that are not new is unethical tires that are 6 months is ok with us and reasonable Pat
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Just a few pictures of my blowout on my truck with Commercial E Michelin truck tires no load in truck at the time F250.Picked up a small screw at a job didn't"t know it and was leaking air for about 5 Hours. Coming home 35 min drive on freeway and my blowout . No damage to my truck at all .Notice the thread that was on tires . Never in my life had a blowout . But have sensors on trailer and watch tires very careful on truck and trailer . Pat
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10-05-2018, 06:12 PM
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#54
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Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mid Left Coast, California
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eeek on the f250, just reinforces my desire to get a EIGHT channel TPMS so I can monitor my truck AND trailer tires...
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10-05-2018, 06:47 PM
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#55
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
eeek on the f250, just reinforces my desire to get a EIGHT channel TPMS so I can monitor my truck AND trailer tires...
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I know because I never had a blow out before , the tires if they had good tread were never a concern . We now how sensors on all 4 of the trailer tires . Should also get for truck but hav n't yet . At least riding in truck know what's going on . Not so with trailer. Had a flat sometime coming home from Washington State before in first year .The problem I learned is heat is building up from tire leaking . The sidewalls give out , blowout . Just our luck the nail or screw went in between the great tread . Truck wasn't damaged sitting up high . If that was the trailer I imagine it would of caused damage to the wheel walls . Pat
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10-05-2018, 07:26 PM
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#56
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: College Station, Texas
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21 "LollyPop" June 12, 2017, sold Coleman pop up
Posts: 256
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
Tires made to the Tire & Rim Association's Special Trailer (ST) standards have a speed rating of 65 miles per hour, unless otherwise marked with a speed rating. Recently some ST tires have appeared with higher ratings, such as the Carlisle Radial Trail HD (81 mph, or index M) and the Goodyear Endurance (index N, or 87 mph).
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The tires that came on our 21' are the Carlisle Load Range C rated for 81 mph. It is on the side of the tire.
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10-05-2018, 07:43 PM
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#57
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19 "Seventy Degrees"
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Got the new tire today, had it mounted, balanced and moved all the tires on the trailer to accomodate. Seventy Degrees is back in action and will be leaving Wed for a short shakedown trip to Flagstaff then over to Santa Fe and back.
The tire rep really said they are having good feedback so far on the Goodyear Endurance and as mentioned it is N rated. If I have any more issues in the next hear I’ll go all new and probably try the Goodyears.
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10-10-2018, 10:31 PM
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#58
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Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Green Valley, Arizona
Trailer: 2018 5.0TA
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The only important stat is 70 mph vs. ST rating of 62 mph. It has happened to me, too.
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10-10-2018, 10:36 PM
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#59
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PM15283
The only important stat is 70 mph vs. ST rating of 62 mph. It has happened to me, too.
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That stat depends on the tire. My Carlisle Special Trailer Radial D range tire is rated at 81 mph, not that I'll ever get close to that speed.
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