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Old 09-10-2016, 04:13 PM   #31
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Yes the bolts are in the correct location (top)...this leaves about 1/4 inch gap below the frame and the lower bolt. When tightened to 65# torc the lower bolt bends the lower portion of the link plates slightly together.
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It's disappointing that there is so much clearance between the bolts and the frame, not because the bolts should touch the frame (they should not) but because the longer that clearance distance, the more bending occurs.

The top bolts are not supposed to support the bracket by bearing against the top of the frame rail. I would place the bracket so that 1/4" of space is divided roughly equally between top and bottom, not all at the bottom; this would give the link plates a better chance of clamping evenly. Perhaps other E2 owners have noticed how their brackets are placed... and what you can get away with.

Unfortunately the installation manual doesn't address this, and all of the drawings suggest that there will be no significant clearance with the bolts in the right holes and a frame rail a whole multiple of 1/2". The frame is a full 4" tall, right?
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Old 09-10-2016, 06:43 PM   #32
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...this leaves about 1/4 inch gap below the frame and the lower bolt.
A piece of 1/4" flat plate inserted between the lower bolt and the frame will stop the pivoting. I hope it stops for you but if it doesn't, you might want to try the shim.
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Old 09-10-2016, 06:52 PM   #33
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A piece of 1/4" flat plate inserted between the lower bolt and the frame will stop the pivoting.
But the shim is to make the bolts hit positive stops to keep the bracket from pivoting, and that means letting it slide until the bolts hit hard enough to stop it. It's not supposed to move at all, and the shim won't help clamping action; it is the clamping that is supposed to keep the bracket in place. If the shim is as wide as the frame, so the link plates touch it, the shim will keep the plates from clamping properly onto the frame.

If the shim is narrower, it still doesn't help clamping, and it forces the plates to be unevenly placed on the frame rail, which makes even clamping unlikely.
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Old 09-10-2016, 07:18 PM   #34
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Yes the frame rails are 4". Incidentally, I like the way your mind works. When I hit the road again in about a week and need to try another alternative, I'll try your splitting the difference.

Right now I'm taking a week off the road in a home-exchange and enjoying some French wine. The IGA store here is incredible. They have 20 types of liver pate, fresh oysters and mussels. These French Quebecers know how to eat. With all the French being spoken I feel like I'm back in Brittany.
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Yes the frame rails are 4". Incidentally, I like the way your mind works. When I hit the road again in about a week and need to try another alternative, I'll try your splitting the difference.

Right now I'm taking a week off the road in a home-exchange and enjoying some French wine. The IGA store here is incredible. They have 20 types of liver pate, fresh oysters and mussels. These French Quebecers know how to eat. With all the French being spoken I feel like I'm back in Brittany.
Hi: dbawden... But do they have "Poutine"? Alf
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Old 09-21-2016, 07:30 AM   #36
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Update:

So...another week on the road and at Prince Edward Island National Park...4,400 miles from home. I now know about "Poutine" is all about. No further problems on the brackets "walking".

Solution: I noticed ESCAPE did not use lock washers on the bracket so I added that and carefully retorqued bracket nuts down. In addition the locking nuts holding L bracket were getting messed up from my abuse so I replaced them with full size ones. Torqued them down again.

As we head south to Florida, if things change on this subject I'll get back to you.
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Old 09-21-2016, 02:16 PM   #37
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Update:

So...another week on the road and at Prince Edward Island National Park...4,400 miles from home. I now know about "Poutine" is all about. No further problems on the brackets "walking".

Solution: I noticed ESCAPE did not use lock washers on the bracket so I added that and carefully retorqued bracket nuts down. In addition the locking nuts holding L bracket were getting messed up from my abuse so I replaced them with full size ones. Torqued them down again.

As we head south to Florida, if things change on this subject I'll get back to you.
Thanks so much for the updates. Much appreciated.

I myself really want the convenience of not having to remove a sway bar before backing up. So the e2 is best for us.
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Old 12-30-2016, 04:21 PM   #39
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Currently I have the E2 on my build list for our 21. With our 17B I had just the basic Pro Series and was very happy with it. But since we will be closer to the various weight limits with the 21 and our Highlander I thought the E2 would be a good bet.

Are those of you who have them satisfied?
Have most of the problems discussed here been remedied?
Are you able to back up satisfactorily without removing it?

Thanks for sharing any experiences those of you who are using one have to offer.
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Old 12-30-2016, 05:09 PM   #40
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We have the US-built Equal-i-zer version of that same hitch on our 19' and Highlander and have not had a single problem with it. I love it. Backing up is no issue at all. I don't know the origin of the idea of removing it (the bars, I guess) for backing, but nothing like that is required. I think the removal idea comes from external sway control units that may have limited travel.
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