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Old 04-18-2018, 10:56 AM   #1
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E2 vs. Andersen and more ....

Late last year, we caught that dreaded disease, 2-foot-itis and, thus, have a 21' on order, to be picked up in September. While our build sheet is fairly easy, there are two items that are giving us pause so we're reaching out for opinions.

First, the WDH. We loved the Andersen on our 19' but have been told that ETI now uses the Fastway E2 (it was hinted that it was because of poor customer service from Andersen ... ). We've watch many videos, read articles, etc., and still lean towards the Andersen but are open to the E2. Anyone have experience with both and, if so, what are some pros and cons. (One 'con', we're not excited about is the fact the E2 weighs 50+ lbs more than the Andersen.)

Second, high rise vs. regular. One thing that always bothered me on our 19' was the fact that the support bars on the WDH and the trailer receiver seemed so close to the ground (the photo shows the brackets -- the hitch receiver was about the same height). ETI tells me that a high rise will add 2.5" to the height of the trailer. We don't really use our trailer for off-road or other non-asphalt camping and our new truck sits about the same as our old so I'm wondering if the high rise would be more of a pain than an asset. Thoughts?
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:05 AM   #2
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Owner of Andersen Hitches vandalizes in Arches NP
In case you missed this, the owner of Andersen Hitches vandalized the one of the most famous arches in Arches NP and then posted a photo of his family in front of his graffiti !!!!

https://idahostatejournal.com/member...53287525d.html

http://rebrn.com/re/this-guy-vandali...-week-4400070/

Hopefully he is heavily fined at the least.
A Boycott of Andersen hitches has been suggested and I will NEVER own one.
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:16 AM   #3
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Jan- there is another option from ETI: the Pro Series or "Equalizer" which they have sold for many years. We had it on our used 17B and then went to the Andersen with our 21. Had too many problems with it and went back to the Pro Series. It is simple and easy to install. I believe ETI now uses the trunnion (stright) bars vs. the round bars which does give better clearance. The Pro series is 84 lbs. vs. 60 for the Andersen.

https://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Dist...ll-description
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:51 AM   #4
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Thanks Rossue, I will check into that one!! I saw it on the build sheet but, for whatever reason, just thought it was another Fastway.
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Old 04-18-2018, 12:00 PM   #5
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So, the build sheet shows:
1. Equalizer Hitch (Pro-Series 600lb Trunnion)
2. Equalizer Hitch (Pro-Series 600lb Trunnion) with Sway Control Bar (Pro-Series)
3. E2 by FastWay Integrated Sway Control and Weight Distribution Hitch

We definitely want the sway-control so now I should be looking at the difference between #2 and #3.
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Old 04-18-2018, 12:04 PM   #6
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Jan, welcome to the 21 club.


With your new truck, you might be more interested in sway control, versus weight distribution. The 21 lends itself to running with some liquid in the waste tanks, imo. Being aware of heavy items under the bed for loading purposes is another angle that you might not be used to.

My 2.5 cents worth.


Edit: I see you are already on this. My classic has ~10" clearance on level ground to the start of the Andersen clamps. As far as I know, I don't have the lift package.
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Another WDH option to look at is the Blue Ox if weight is a big concern. I am able to pick up both bars with one hand and I am not a big person. Switched from an Ez Lift system to the Blue OX on a 22.5' Airstream Safari due to weight & clearance issues and have been very happy with its performance.
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We travel quite a bit without the WDH installed too and we never have sway. There have been lots of posts here commenting on the fact that due to the design the Escape trailers are not as prone to sway as many others. We also travel with the the water tank which is behind the rear axle full and we have two bikes on the back on a 1Up bike rack. The fact that the bed and bathroom are up front no doubt compensates for that- along with the propane tanks.
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Old 04-18-2018, 01:29 PM   #9
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Late last year, we caught that dreaded disease, 2-foot-itis and, thus, have a 21' on order, to be picked up in September. While our build sheet is fairly easy, there are two items that are giving us pause so we're reaching out for opinions.

First, the WDH. We loved the Andersen on our 19' but have been told that ETI now uses the Fastway E2 (it was hinted that it was because of poor customer service from Andersen ... ). We've watch many videos, read articles, etc., and still lean towards the Andersen but are open to the E2. Anyone have experience with both and, if so, what are some pros and cons. (One 'con', we're not excited about is the fact the E2 weighs 50+ lbs more than the Andersen.)

Second, high rise vs. regular. One thing that always bothered me on our 19' was the fact that the support bars on the WDH and the trailer receiver seemed so close to the ground (the photo shows the brackets -- the hitch receiver was about the same height). ETI tells me that a high rise will add 2.5" to the height of the trailer. We don't really use our trailer for off-road or other non-asphalt camping and our new truck sits about the same as our old so I'm wondering if the high rise would be more of a pain than an asset. Thoughts?
For what it is worth, my wife and I just got back from the Escape showroom. We had a look at the show model of the 21 prior to finalizing our build sheet. We had originally intended to order the high lift axle, but after seeing the trailer we concluded that if a location required more clearance, our 4x4 Tacoma shouldn't be there anyway. The clearance under the standard 21 is already excellent. We deleted the high lift axle from the build sheet.

Having said that, I understand your concern about the height of the WDH. I intend to just remove the trunnion bars when setting up at any campsite where their clearance might be an issue. They will be coming off at the campsite anyway, and they are not required for the kind of maneuvering needed to set up camp. As to clearance beneath the ball itself, I will just put up with it. I am not much worried about digging a bit of dirt once in a while if the co-pilot does not manage to avoid it. The likelihood of this clearance issue being significant in any other circumstance than a particularly rough campsite is too remote to justify choosing the high axle for us.

I chose the Reese WDH and will install the dual cam anti-sway option - maybe not needed, but other than a bit of extra weight, not much downside either. It seems like a well built unit, and was easily available to us in Canada. If I had found a comparable dual cam unit that was lighter, I would have gone for it.

Good luck with your decision,

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I had an Andersen with my 19 and sold it with the trailer. Bought another Andersen to use with my 21 and sold it with the trailer. Wished I had kept it and the Andersen's are getting $$$. I'd forgo the rise and get the Andersen for the 21 and your Taco, or get air bags for the truck. The t/w is about 75-50# more than your old weight.
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