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Old 12-30-2014, 07:26 PM   #11
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Although the payload numbers look great, it could still be an issue with enough passengers and cargo - lots of travel trailer owners run into GVWR limits with much less hitch weight than that of an Escape 5.0TA. I think every number I've seen in this forum for an actual pin weight in loaded condition of either version of the Escape 5.0 is significantly more than 600 pounds.
The list of real world weights that Jon is keeping up has 3 of them, pin weights are 520, 610, and 728. Mine was the 610, loaded for travel.

The OP could get more payload, but not with the little engine.
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Old 12-30-2014, 11:56 PM   #12
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The list of real world weights that Jon is keeping up has 3 of them, pin weights are 520, 610, and 728. Mine was the 610, loaded for travel.
That's a great list, based mostly on Fred's weighings at meets, but when I did a search in this forum other numbers appeared:... and I'm sure there are more, since that was just the first page of Google hits.

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The OP could get more payload, but not with the little engine.
The engine (and final drive ratio) determine the GCWR and thus the maximum trailer weight... but drivetrain has little to do with the GVWR which determines payload. Within the same payload package level the engine choice makes small differences in GVWR; the big change is due to the payload packages (which is primarily suspension), and the length (shown in terms of wheelbase) and engine determine which payload package is available.

The SuperCab and 6.5' box combination gives a wheelbase of 3683 mm (145"), for which the payload selector says a 980 kg (2160 lb) payload is available. That's not far off the 1057 kg (2330 lb) of the highest payload available with any other engine in that cab/box combination... and hopefully more than anyone needs to tow an Escape 5.0TA!
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Old 12-31-2014, 12:08 AM   #13
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Thanks guys. Whatever I get, I'll probably factory order it. Might as well have exactly what I want rather than compromise. When I bought my Fusion 6.5 years ago I had 2 to pick from, really expensive or within my price range...

I'm leaning towards a supercab, more practical... but I just love the look of a regular cab with the shorter box! Who needs to have room to haul your friends around!
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Have you noticed that parking spots in mall lots are getting narrower?
At some point there will be all these cars and trucks in the lot, filled with obese people who can't open their doors, so they can go buy their groceries. They'll all leave Thrifty's and go to a fast food drive thru.
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Old 12-31-2014, 06:34 AM   #15
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Happened to notice just yesterday that we could hardly even back out of a lot at a shopping center, almost required a K turn maneuver. Looks like they aren't just shrinking the spaces, but the space between the rows too. And that was with the Corolla.
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Old 12-31-2014, 07:09 AM   #16
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I love my truck. Don't need or want something with four big doors. The back seat in the 2014 is so much nicer than the back seat was in my 2000 Ford. For the ocassional passenger(s), I think it would be more than adequate.

Alf mentioned galloping with a 6.5 box. I don't notice that either. I looked at a white Ford F-150 long box. Didn't care for it at all. Looked like something a contractor drives... that's not me! YMMV
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Old 12-31-2014, 07:15 AM   #17
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Reece is happy with his Ford CC short box and a 5.0TA. There are pictures here somewhere that I can't just find.
The pictures, etc. are here, direct link: Escape 5.0 TA Udate #2
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Old 12-31-2014, 03:05 PM   #18
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Alf mentioned galloping with a 6.5 box. I don't notice that either.
I believe that Alf's truck was like mine - a 6-ft or so box and regular cab, for a wheelbase around 3 metres (120"). Donna's truck has the same box but a much longer cab, stretching the wheelbase out half a metre (to 145" or so). The extra wheelbase would help.
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Whatever I get, I'll probably factory order it. Might as well have exactly what I want rather than compromise. When I bought my Fusion 6.5 years ago I had 2 to pick from, really expensive or within my price range...
Unlike cars, pickup trucks still offer a wide variety of configuration choices. If you have the time, energy, patience, and interest to go through them and choose the best for you, this can be a real advantage.

Of course, if you make an unusual choice and it doesn't work out for you - maybe your needs change - it can be hard to sell. I saw a pair of regular cab longbox base-trim Tundras on a Toyota lot, and just had to ask a sales person what they were doing there: they were special-ordered for corporate customer... the dealership never would have brought them in otherwise, as no one here chooses that. Another time I was curious about the front suspension of a 2WD SuperDuty pickup, and asked at the local Ford dealership if they had one to look at. This place is big - 83 F350 SRW truck in stock today - and they only found one 2WD F-250 or F-350 in stock... and they couldn't find it in the lot. I wouldn't want to be looking for a buyer for that truck.
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Hi: Donna D... Of the two pic's. I put in post #5 the black F150 and 5.0TA is Reace& Tammys combo. The TA was sold at the Escape Rally in Osoyoos though. An Albertan with a new 5.0 sold his and bought theirs on the spot!!!
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