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Old 12-30-2014, 12:43 PM   #1
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F150 2with 6.5' box. Regular cab or super cab?

Hi everyone,

I won't be buying a truck for another year, and won't be buying the trailer (hopefully a 5.0TA) for another year after that, but I am trying to consider all my options.

I've only towed a utility trailer a few times, so this would be my first RV. My truck will be an F150 with the 6.5' box (and most likely a 4x4 and with the 2.7L ecoboost) , but I am currently trying to figure out if I need to get an extended cab or not. A lot of people say they wouldn't tow with a regular cab short box, but those people are talking about bigger and heavier fifth wheels. With how light the Escape 5.0TA is, would a regular cab short box truck be adequate?
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Reece is happy with his Ford CC short box and a 5.0TA. There are pictures here somewhere that I can't just find. He/Tammy would be great to shoot some Q's to.

Personally I'd be looking at cargo capacity numbers before box length issues.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:47 PM   #3
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It's more a wheelbase length issue. It's a pretty short truck. I was wondering if anyone had experience with that configuration towing a 5.0TA.
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It's more a wheelbase length issue. It's a pretty short truck. I was wondering if anyone had experience with that configuration towing a 5.0TA.
Look at posts #12 and #13 of this thread:
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It's more a wheelbase length issue. It's a pretty short truck. I was wondering if anyone had experience with that configuration towing a 5.0TA.
Hi: notquitesane... I know the feeling.
We towed our '07 5.0 for the first few years with a 6.5' GMC std. cab. Not enough room in the cab for #one and didn't like the galloping of the short wheelbase for #2. The 5.0TA rides better and the Crew Cab 6'1" long wheel base Frontier has room for an extra passenger or Grand kids car seats.
Reace and Tammy have the Ecoboost F150 4dr. truck... Their family is growing up!!! Ours only come back once in a while...but the Grands are different. Alf
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Old 12-30-2014, 04:26 PM   #6
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If I read your question right, you want to know if you can tow a 5.0TA with a regular cab F150 2.7L EB with a 6.5' bed. According to the truck capacity chart 2015 Ford F-150 | View Towing Specifications | Ford.com you can tow 7600 lbs with the 3.55 axel and 8400 lb with the 3.73. Both are fine for the 5.0TA. The payload for these configurations are 1580 and 1700 respectively, again your fine. I don't have my exact figures, but the trailer is about 4400 lbs loaded with a 600 lb pin weight.

The supercab is roughly the same.
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Reece is happy with his Ford CC short box and a 5.0TA. There are pictures here somewhere that I can't just find. He/Tammy would be great to shoot some Q's to.

Personally I'd be looking at cargo capacity numbers before box length issues.
He's not just happy with it, he's ecstatic. When I mentioned we might get the Ecoboost V6 F150 as a tow, he smiled and told me I'd be very pleased with it. He said it almost brought tears to his eyes how well it tows and how well it accelerates to pass when towing.
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The box length is relevant to how much space there is between the cab and axle, and the 6.5' box would be suitable; a shorter box would require a compromise in hitch position or in turning clearance.

The cab length is relevant to towing only because it (in combination with the box length) determines the wheelbase, and long wheelbase is good for towing. A regular cab short-box 2015 F150 doesn't exist, and even a regular-cab with 6.5' box (which I think you'll have trouble finding here) has a 3109 mm (122.4") wheelbase, which is longer than any of the SUVs that people are using to tow the Escape 21'; a 21' is nearly as big as the 5.0TA and less stable.

I think it's a good idea to ask about these factors, and understand their significance, but in this case I suggest that you get whatever cab length suits you for other reasons, not for towing... since you're not considering the SuperCrew/5.5'box combination which would not be good for clearance (although that's what Reace uses).
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If I read your question right, you want to know if you can tow a 5.0TA with a regular cab F150 2.7L EB with a 6.5' bed. According to the truck capacity chart 2015 Ford F-150 | View Towing Specifications | Ford.com you can tow 7600 lbs with the 3.55 axel and 8400 lb with the 3.73. Both are fine for the 5.0TA. The payload for these configurations are 1580 and 1700 respectively, again your fine. I don't have my exact figures, but the trailer is about 4400 lbs loaded with a 600 lb pin weight.

The supercab is roughly the same.
I don't think you'll see any significant difference in rated towing capacity, because the cab and box only change the curb weight, and the trailer rating is just whatever is left after subtracting the curb weight from the Gross Combined Weight Rating. Similarly, the payload is likely just the GVWR minus the curb weight.

Shorter boxes and especially shorter cabs reduce the curb weight. Although the payload numbers look great, it could still be an issue with enough passengers and cargo - lots of travel trailer owners run into GVWR limits with much less hitch weight than that of an Escape 5.0TA. I think every number I've seen in this forum for an actual pin weight in loaded condition of either version of the Escape 5.0 is significantly more than 600 pounds.

Ford Canada's version of the towing data chart is F-150 Specifications - Towing; the values are probably the same, but I haven't checked.
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We towed our '07 5.0 for the first few years with a 6.5' GMC std. cab. Not enough room in the cab for #one and didn't like the galloping of the short wheelbase for #2.
I get that - our old Chevy regular-cab shortbox would annoyingly pitch even without a trailer... but I hope that trucks have improved a little bit in the 35 years since the piece of junk we had was made.
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