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Old 08-23-2016, 11:49 AM   #61
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$470 option on my 4WD Lariat w/tow pkg(not max tow).
Could only get differential options by selecting the 3.5EB on the "Build & Price F150" website. Hope I can, but ultimately, Ford will decide. Thanks!
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Old 08-23-2016, 02:03 PM   #62
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Could only get differential options by selecting the 3.5EB on the "Build & Price F150" website. Hope I can, but ultimately, Ford will decide. Thanks!
Yeah, Ford's options lists on their build and price section of the website are confusing- and incomplete. You can indeed get the higher axle ratios with the 2.7L Ecoboost. I'd deal with a knowledgeable dealer - directly.

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Old 08-23-2016, 02:58 PM   #63
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The table of towing specs (at Ford Canada, and at Ford U.S.) shows three values of final drive ratio (or "axle ratio") for the 2.7L EcoBoost: 3.31, 3.55, and 3.73. I don't know why they would show all of them if only one is available.

That towing capacity table only shows values for truck combinations which exist, so most of the cells are empty. Even within the variant for which a 2.7L is available, not all combinations of cab, box length, 2-versus-4-wheel drive and axle ratio have a listed capacity.

For instance, a short-box SuperCab 2.7 4X2 gets a 3.31 or 3.73, but not a 3.55; the long-box SuperCab 2.7 4X4 gets a 3.55 or 3.73, but not a 3.31. Effectively, in this case, Ford is saying you must have at least 12,700 lb GCWR with that combination of cab and box if 4X4 (so at least 3.55 ratio), but the same combination of cab and box if 4X2 is lighter so it only needs at least 12,500 lb GCWR (so the 3.31 ratio is okay)... and if you are getting an optional axle ratio you go all the way to 3.73 in either 4X2 or 4X4.

The same pattern of axle ratios for the 2.7L EcoBoost (and likely the other engines - I didn't look through them all) occurs with each cab and box combination: a base ratio (which is either 3.31 or 3.55, depending on cab, box, and 4X2 vs 4X4), and the 3.73 option.
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Old 08-23-2016, 03:09 PM   #64
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Could only get differential options by selecting the 3.5EB on the "Build & Price F150" website.
What cab size, box length, and drive (4X2 versus 4X4) combination are you trying to build, Rich?

For an example, in just the first page of the Build & Price tool on the U.S. website I picked SuperCab, 6-1/2' box, 2.7L EcoBoost, and 4X2 (not moving the towing and payload sliders), and it let me pick either 3.31 (non-limited slip or electronic locking) or 3.73 (electronic locking only). I changed to 4X4 and it let me pick either 3.55 (non-limited slip or electronic locking) or 3.73 (electronic locking only). In all cases, I was offered XL, XLT, and Lariat trims. That's just what the towing table would suggest... but these are only two of several cab/box/drive combinations for the 2.7L EcoBoost.
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I'd deal with a knowledgeable dealer - directly.
Having never met a knowledgeable dealer, and having no problem selecting a different axle ratio with the build tool on the website, I'd stay home until I was at a full set of specs, then ask the sales people what it would cost and if they would suggest any variations. Maybe that's just me...
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Well, I know of at least one knowledgeable dealer in Austin TX, where I bought my truck. They know the F150 thoroughly.

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Well, I know of at least one knowledgeable dealer in Austin TX, where I bought my truck. They know the F150 thoroughly.
There's the problem - you have to know them.

I'm sure there are lots of knowledgeable and honest Ford sales people here in the Edmonton area (where and F-150 is probably the most common car driven), but until you have searched and tried them out, who knows what you'll get? I had a Ford Focus for several years, I included the Focus in my shopping for that car's replacement, and I still have a motorhome with a Ford F53 chassis, so I've dealt with Ford dealers... and technical competence so far has be hard to find. This isn't a criticism of Ford - the situation is the same with other brands, probably all of them.

There was a discussion of fuel tank size earlier, and I dropped by a Ford dealership to check it out. The sales guy didn't even know that there were two fuel tank sizes for the F-150... and this is a dealership that has been selling Fords for 80 years and has several hundred vehicles in stock, a large portion of which are F-150's. I haven't yet had the audacity to say to a sales person: "is there a more experienced sales person with better product knowledge available to help me instead"?
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Wow, if he didn't know about the different fuel tanks, that'd be a pretty strong hint to find another dealer. Kind of amusing what passes for a truck salesman these days.

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When I bought mine the no one at the dealer knew you could get an F150 with a heavy duty payload package and how other options change when you get it. After I walked the salesman and the manager through what it was and where I got the info (Ford website) they called someone at Ford who confirmed it was an option and whatever other info they needed.
It helps if you do your own homework as you can't tell how informed the sales folks are.
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Wow, if he didn't know about the different fuel tanks, that'd be a pretty strong hint to find another dealer. Kind of amusing what passes for a truck salesman these days.
To be fair, I think that dealership sensibly orders all their F-150s with the largest tank available for the wheelbase (only the shortest F-150 combination can't fit the larger tank), so it's not a choice which would ordinarily come up... but yes, you can sell anything while knowing almost nothing.
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