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Old 09-28-2016, 10:30 PM   #121
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I know sticker price does not mean a lot, but I got my truck at $15k CAD less.

The 2017s have a nicer nav system.
And Pro Trailer Backup Assist. Can't wait to try that on my 2018 when my current truck goes bye bye.

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Old 09-28-2016, 10:41 PM   #122
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I have that feature in every vehicle I tow with.
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Old 09-28-2016, 11:27 PM   #123
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I wonder what features they'll have in 2021 when my estimate tells me it's time for a new tow?

Edit: guesses: autonomous towing? automatic stopping at microbreweries?

Edit #2: If the computer is driving, does it matter what You drink?
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Old 09-29-2016, 07:22 AM   #124
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I have that feature in every vehicle I tow with.
Me too, but under pressure, she sometimes has difficulty distinguishing left from right. Despite hitting the reset button several times, the problem continues to persist.
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Old 09-29-2016, 07:57 AM   #125
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Me too, but under pressure, she sometimes has difficulty distinguishing left from right. Despite hitting the reset button several times, the problem continues to persist.
LOL. Ever tried ripping a piece of plywood on a small table saw with said assist? A few buttons get pressed there too.
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Old 09-29-2016, 08:03 AM   #126
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LOL. Ever tried ripping a piece of plywood on a small table saw with said assist? A few buttons get pressed there too.
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Old 09-29-2016, 08:53 AM   #127
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My Pro Assist points left with an extended left middle finger and right with an extended right middle finger. I don't dare risk pressing reset
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Old 10-03-2016, 09:03 PM   #128
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Was the dealer able to tell you what the payload printed on the yellow sticker (driver side) would be??

If you can I would appreciate knowing what it is when it arrives.

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Old 10-04-2016, 06:23 AM   #129
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[QUOTE=Little Richie;162890]Was the dealer able to tell you what the payload printed on the yellow sticker (driver side) would be??

If you can I would appreciate knowing what it is when it arrives.

Thank you.

He told me that the payload specs were the same as the 2016 models. This chart
2017 Ford F-150 Full-Size Pickup Truck | Payload Specifications | Ford.com shows the payload for my truck at 2060 lbs. Hope this helps.
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Old 10-20-2016, 07:30 PM   #130
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To echo what others have said:

Tow package
Payload package
Integrated brake controller -(it's the best one out there)
Towing mirrors
36 gallon fuel tank (500+ miles between fuel stops when towing)
Ecoboost V6 - (Ours is a 2.7L, which would get maybe 1 to 2 mpg better mileage than the 3.5, but a little less horsepower)

Other items we like:
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And, if I'm going with the 5.0TA, I'd switch from the 5.5 foot bed to 6.5 foot.
Hi! I'm seriously considering the 2016 Ford F150 Supercab XLT with a 6.5 foot box and the extended range fuel tank. I've always been a Toyota guy, but the F150 just looks too good and practical for towing a 5.0 TA that we're getting next August. The year end deals are very attractive, for sure. Trying to decide if the Payload Package is necessary. The payload specs are showing 1,660 lbs. for the 2.7L 4X4 (which seems adequate). Do you know if the tow package and larger fuel tank reduces that payload and, if so, by how much? Any other helpful hints would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Old 10-20-2016, 07:46 PM   #131
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Anything you add is taking away from payload. If you can find one on a dealers lot you can look at the yellow sticker on the door jamb for the actual figures. My opinion would be 1500 lbs or better would work fine, although I'm sure folks make due just fine with less.

I'm pretty sure the payload stated on the sticker is with a full tank of gas but not the driver.
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Old 10-20-2016, 07:55 PM   #132
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The payload specs are showing 1,660 lbs. for the 2.7L 4X4 (which seems adequate). Do you know if the tow package and larger fuel tank reduces that payload and, if so, by how much? Any other helpful hints would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Ford doesn't mention if the tow package or high capacity fuel tank reduces the payload capacity, so I don't know.

The payload package would take you from 1660 lbs to about 2100 lbs of payload capacity. Not bad for a "1/2 ton" truck. I don't think you need it, but your choice. You might however want to consider the higher axle ratio, which bumps up your towing capacity by 600 lbs, and your GCWR by 800 lbs. Although, to be honest, the lower axle ratio will be more than adequate for an Escape.
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Old 10-20-2016, 08:20 PM   #133
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I'm going to tow mine with a 2014 Chevy Silverado 1/2 ton 5.3 Litre with a 6.5' bed
B/W Patriot 5th wheel hitch
7 pin cable connector in the bed
I pop off my "Undercover solid tonneau" and I'm ready to go
I installed a Diamond Plate aluminum, lockable tool box ahead of the 5th wheel hitch
for securing items while I'm towing and the tonneau is off
a small two step fold-up aluminum ladder for accessing items in the lock-box
I may add some air suspension "spring helpers" that can be adjusted prior to towing
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Old 10-20-2016, 09:06 PM   #134
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I love the fact my Fold-a-cover tonneau cover stays on with when towing, and has a lockable tool box as well. This has proven to be a very handy item. I really like quickly closing the tonneau cover after docking the fifth wheel.

I would go for the payload package on the F150 for sure. I did that, and it is amazing how much all the options brought the payload capacity back down to 746 kg (1646 lb).
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Old 10-20-2016, 09:16 PM   #135
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Do you know if the tow package and larger fuel tank reduces that payload and, if so, by how much?
The larger tank weighs more, and payload is calculated with fuel fuel so the weight of the additional fuel would count as well, so maximum payload will be reduced. The payload shown in spec tables won't reflect this, because they are based on standard equipment and the larger tank is optional (in the United States).

The useful payload isn't reduced by any meaningful amount unless you fill it, since the difference in the weight of the tank itself is minimal. I would certainly want to have the option to carry fuel or cargo (and would not have to choose with the payload package anyway), so I wouldn't pass up the larger tank for weight reasons.
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Totally agree Brian. The 36 gallon tank is my favorite option.
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We took delivery of our 5.0TA on Aug 19 and completed a 5000 mile trip back to San Marcos via the Canadian and American Rockies plus a lot of prairies, only a day of drizzle, two of heavy rain. Not a Ford, but a 2012 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab, 6'4" box with an Andersen Ultimate 3200 on rails. 42 lbs plus the rails. Easy hookup (I have the latest version with the inverted 6" Bowl on the trailer hitch); get the ball inside that bowl and you have it done except for locking the hitch! No jerking, noise. Unhooking is just as easy. No hitting the rear of the cab, U-turns-no problem. A ceiling winch is not needed to remove it. You might want to take a look at it.
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Old 10-20-2016, 10:12 PM   #138
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I should have mentioned I do have the safety chains, easy and quick to handle and no need about the changing laws from state or province to the next. The Ram is 4 yrs old, still we saw a 5mpg increase pulling the 5.0TA vs when pulling the old 2011 FR travel Trailer near 8000GRW.-Ethab
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Anything you add is taking away from payload. If you can find one on a dealers lot you can look at the yellow sticker on the door jamb for the actual figures. My opinion would be 1500 lbs or better would work fine, although I'm sure folks make due just fine with less.

I'm pretty sure the payload stated on the sticker is with a full tank of gas but not the driver.
Thanks, Bob (and all) for the input. I'm headed over to the dealership tomorrow and have a look to see what the actual payload might be for an F150 equipped with the tow package and extended range tank. I'm hoping it's still close to 1400 - 1500 lbs. Although we travel pretty light, if it falls much below that, finding one with the payload package might be in order.
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Old 10-21-2016, 05:46 AM   #140
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Tool box

Where did folks get tool boxes that fit below the tonneau covers? Custom made?
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