Ford F-150 2.7 or 3.5 EB best for towing a 5.0TA??

[sclifrickson]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

With 1000 mile ranges on vehicles the little gas stations will disappear and only truck stops will proliferate.

Nah, everyone will still run low on gas at different places. They’ll just do it less frequently.

[cpaharley2008]

Someone is up late tonite, it is snowing and early here, what's your excuse there Scott?

[sclifrickson]

Uhm...catching up on all things Escape?

[Jim Bennett]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

With 2 dogs in the back, when we stop they get anxious and we walk them, plus we use the bathroom, so we stop every 3 hours anyway. May as well fill up, whether we need it or not.
Just seems odd to stop at a gas station, use their facilities and then not purchase gas. With 1000 mile ranges on vehicles the little gas stations will disappear and only truck stops will proliferate.

We stop about every 3-4 hours too and even more if interesting things pop up, but I prefer that to be at a nicer place than a gas station if possible. With the trailer we have a toilet if one is not available elsewhere.

I don't use any less fuel with a larger tank, and most people are not travelling long distances, so not much chance of losing fuel stations based on larger tanks.

I have to wonder if the 136 litre tank must be standard here as I don't see it listed as an option. I did just check on the online copy of the window sticker I saved (I bought the truck off the lot), and it is listed on it but with no cost associated to it. Kinda like a block heater, something standard in all new vehicles here.

[rbryan4]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

With 1000 mile ranges on vehicles the little gas stations will disappear and only truck stops will proliferate.

You're serious right? An extended range fuel tank is a threat to small gas stations? No, it means that I buy 36 gallons from them instead of 20. If I got 40 percent better fuel economy now that would be a threat, because overall I'm buying less gas. Please tell me that was tongue in cheek.

[steve dunham]

Originally Posted by rbryan4

You're serious right? An extended range fuel tank is a threat to small gas stations? No, it means that I buy 36 gallons from them instead of 20. If I got 40 percent better fuel economy now that would be a threat, because overall I'm buying less gas. Please tell me that was tongue in cheek.

My buddy refuses to buy the bigger tank because the bigger tank costs too much to fill . His logic is , if he puts $30 worth of fuel in the standard tank it's half full but if he puts $30 worth of fuel in the bigger tank then it's only 1/3 full so he gets more fuel with the smaller tank. He puts $10 worth of gas in his truck every other day so if fuel prices go up or down his cost averages out.
It's hard to explain because it's Wisconsin Logic and if you don't live here it makes absolutely no sense .

Where we live there is only only one small gas station in each town so if the station in my town goes out of business , I guess I am stuck at home until Spring.

[rbryan4]

Originally Posted by steve dunham

My buddy refuses to buy the bigger tank because the bigger tank costs too much to fill . His logic is , if he puts $30 worth of fuel in the standard tank it's half full but if he puts $30 worth of fuel in the bigger tank then it's only 1/3 full so he gets more fuel with the smaller tank. He puts $10 worth of gas in his truck every other day so if fuel prices go up or down his cost averages out.
It's hard to explain because it's Wisconsin Logic and if you don't live here it makes absolutely no sense.

Well, it makes sense to him I guess. [emoji23]

[steve dunham]

Originally Posted by rbryan4

Well, it makes sense to him I guess. [emoji23]

My buddy Curt is a Wisconsin High School graduate but in reality he is basically illiterate as are a lot of my acquaintances here in Northwest Wisconsin. A lifetime of swilling beer and smoking pot has long term affects. But to be fair I have seen similar sentiments expressed on this forum .
I have gone on one long trip with Curt and stopping every 100 miles to purchase $10 worth of fuel makes for a long day.

[Jim Bennett]

That sounds like the logic I heard while watching someone in a bar playing some sort of gambling game machine. She won a fairly decent prize racking up lots of credits. She then started putting more money in the machine to purchase more and kept playing. Curiosity got the best of me, and I asked her why she was buying more credits when she already had hordes. Her reply was that she the odds of winning were better with new credits, than the ones she had won.

I personally have never put a penny in one (or a loonie either ).

[escape artist]

Originally Posted by Fox hunt

Ok I guess it's a 36 gallon tank!

Hi: Fox hunt... Here on the north shore at $1.21.9 L. CAD you'd need a second mortgage to fill it!!! ($1.21.9 L. X 3.89 L/ US G. X ex. rate $1.2748 to the USD... times 36 G.= OMG!!!
Gotta pay for that "Free" Health Care somehow!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

[steve dunham]

Originally Posted by Jim Bennett

That sounds like the logic I heard while watching someone in a bar playing some sort of gambling game machine. She won a fairly decent prize racking up lots of credits. She then started putting more money in the machine to purchase more and kept playing. Curiosity got the best of me, and I asked her why she was buying more credits when she already had hordes. Her reply was that she the odds of winning were better with new credits, than the ones she had won.

I personally have never put a penny in one (or a loonie either ).

I will admit going to the Casino but only for the dining specials not for gambling.
I enjoy listening to people and trying to comprehend how they view things.
Deer hunting is a big thing in Wisconsin, with over 600,000 people participating in the firearm deer season
A few years back , we were sitting around the campfire at season's end BSing about hunting and why the season has produced so few deer. The consensus opinion was that Obama had ordered the CIA to implant microchips in the deers brains and the government was using satellite photo's of the area to hide the deer from hunters.
The other consensus was that the Wisconsin DNR was working with the Russian and secretly killing off the deer and selling them to China.
Possible but highly unlikely but it makes one ponder the thinking process of people.

[Donna D.]

I'm just grateful there's enough differences between all of us that it keeps life interesting.

[cpaharley2008]

Originally Posted by rbryan4

You're serious right? An extended range fuel tank is a threat to small gas stations? No, it means that I buy 36 gallons from them instead of 20. If I got 40 percent better fuel economy now that would be a threat, because overall I'm buying less gas. Please tell me that was tongue in cheek.

Look at it this way, on this years Osoyoos Trip, 7000 miles, we may have stopped close to 30 times for gas, each at a different location, and each involved a purchase.
If you only stopped 10 times, then those locations benefited from your larger purchase while the remaining 20 received -0-. Reminds me of when there were local hardware stores before the big chain stores put them out of business. Where there were many, now are few.

[rbryan4]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

Look at it this way, on this years Osoyoos Trip, 7000 miles, we may have stopped close to 30 times for gas, each at a different location, and each involved a purchase.
If you only stopped 10 times, then those locations benefited from your larger purchase while the remaining 20 received -0-. Reminds me of when there were local hardware stores before the big chain stores put them out of business. Where there were many, now are few.

Think. You're not the only one on the road. People live in all those places you stopped at, and they buy gas too. You may not stop at station X if you don't need gas, but someone else will. The amount of gas you (or others) purchase will stay exactly the same. Exactly. Even if every vehicle on the road had extended range fuel tanks, the only difference to the gas station would be fewer transactions, but more gas purchased per transaction. The amount of gas they sell would be unchanged.

The analogy of the big box stores running the small shops out of business is misapplied and doesn't fit at all. A big gas station chain charges basically the same for gas as the smaller ones do, because the wholesale price for gas is about the same for both. The main reason the small businesses couldn't compete with the bigger ones was PRICE. The big boys can afford huge purchases and exclusive manufacturer deals which lower their cost. So, they can lower their prices and still make a profit. The small ones could not match it and still make money. If the analogy fit, it would already have fit, and small gas stations would have already been run out of business.

This is not a hard concept.

[cpaharley2008]

Let's meet at rally and work this out over some beers..........Happy New Year!

[Chotch]

Originally Posted by steve dunham

My buddy refuses to buy the bigger tank because the bigger tank costs too much to fill . His logic is , if he puts $30 worth of fuel in the standard tank it's half full but if he puts $30 worth of fuel in the bigger tank then it's only 1/3 full so he gets more fuel with the smaller tank. He puts $10 worth of gas in his truck every other day so if fuel prices go up or down his cost averages out.
It's hard to explain because it's Wisconsin Logic and if you don't live here it makes absolutely no sense .

Where we live there is only only one small gas station in each town so if the station in my town goes out of business , I guess I am stuck at home until Spring.

[emoji848] Same buddy who is a smoker but gets his yearly chest x rays??


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[Iowa Dave]

Originally Posted by steve dunham

My buddy refuses to buy the bigger tank because the bigger tank costs too much to fill . His logic is , if he puts $30 worth of fuel in the standard tank it's half full but if he puts $30 worth of fuel in the bigger tank then it's only 1/3 full so he gets more fuel with the smaller tank. He puts $10 worth of gas in his truck every other day so if fuel prices go up or down his cost averages out.
It's hard to explain because it's Wisconsin Logic and if you don't live here it makes absolutely no sense .

Where we live there is only only one small gas station in each town so if the station in my town goes out of business , I guess I am stuck at home until Spring.

Some part of this logic must have been taught in Madison and used in the game plan when the Badgers played for the Big Ten Championship a few weeks back. Did not average out in touchdowns.
Iowa “Go Bucks” Dave

[rbryan4]

Originally Posted by Iowa Dave

Some part of this logic must have been taught in Madison and used in the game plan when the Badgers played for the Big Ten Championship a few weeks back. Did not average out in touchdowns.
Iowa “Go Bucks” Dave

I'm confused Dave. Shouldn't that sweatshirt be more yellow?Looks like some misspelling too.

[Iowa Dave]

Originally Posted by rbryan4

I'm confused Dave. Shouldn't that sweatshirt be more yellow?Looks like some misspelling too.

I am not an Iowa fan although my daughter is a psychologist at the University Hospital. I have an Iowa State (Ames Iowa) degree. However my son was a presidential scholar at Ohio State and both my daughter and her husband have degrees from The Ohio State University. So three Ohio State Degrees in our house and several others from other Universities and colleges. I don’t really get too sports serious, but do enjoy the bowl games and following the local kids who occasionally make the big time. I can tell the ones that were raised right. They give back to the community, are good role models, and do not disgrace their families. I went to the same schools as Bill Fitch, legendary NBA Coach. Used to start his mom’s car in cold weather when I worked in the service station as a kid. You can kid me about sports, I realize it’s only a game, it’s not life like some would have you believe. Stay warm and put a cold weather kit on your Galaxy.
Iowa Dave

[steve dunham]

Originally Posted by Chotch

[emoji848] Same buddy who is a smoker but gets his yearly chest x rays??


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NO , cigarettes are too expensive