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01-02-2019, 06:47 PM
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#21
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Westcliffe, Colorado
Trailer: 2010 EggCamper (#083); 2017 Escape 21 (#053); 2016 F-150 5.0L FX4
Posts: 1,765
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Losangeles
Thanks for the thoughts. I test drove a new F 350 and it was ok. Not terribly tank like. We won’t go diesel as we go way off the beaten path where there is no diesel. Plus it adds about $9,000 and 900 lbs. Both very bad for our needs. Would not ever drive enough to get the $9,000 back.
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Don't forget resale value of the diesel version. Two weeks ago, I finally parted with our 1999 F-250 with the 7.3L turbo-diesel and got right at 50% of what I purchased it new for 20 years ago. Pretty good return on investment...
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01-02-2019, 06:59 PM
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#22
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Site Team
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mid Left Coast, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21
Posts: 5,122
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Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
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a bunch of branded cosmetic stuff. Only actual 'performance' upgrade is Fox shocks, KO2 tires.... hoookay. for only $14000 above the already too expensive base truck ?
you could spend a fraction of that on performance upgrades to the 6.7 Powerstroke, and STILL have more than enough left over for fancy suspension.
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01-02-2019, 07:04 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Trailer: 2018 21
Posts: 252
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Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
a bunch of branded cosmetic stuff. Only actual 'performance' upgrade is Fox shocks, KO2 tires.... hoookay. for only $14000 above the already too expensive base truck ?
you could spend a fraction of that on performance upgrades to the 6.7 Powerstroke, and STILL have more than enough left over for fancy suspension.
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That reminds me. the only real mod I did to mine was a set of Bilstein 5100 shocks. They made the truck feel planted without being harsh.
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01-02-2019, 09:37 PM
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#24
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Ely, Minnesota
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19'
Posts: 9
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Check the Ford F250 Cab Height before you buy a camper
Before we purchased our 19' Escape we had a F250 Crew Cab turbo diesel and a Northern Lite pick up camper. The diesel F250 was an awesome hill climber and tow machine. It got pretty decent highway mileage too.
One thing to check out on the new F250: measure the height of the cab back wall from the pick up bed to top of the truck. Compare that to the same dimension on the pick up camper. F250 Super Duty, our 2006 model anyway, required a 3" platform (I made a pink foam and plywood sandwich) under the camper to raise it enough to clear the top of the Ford cab (camper bed goes out toward front of truck). The 3" sandwich was a moderate inconvenience and added to the sway of the camper when driving. Just something to investigate when considering brands.
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01-02-2019, 10:56 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mid Left Coast, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21
Posts: 5,122
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don't use foam for that, use wood or something rigid, and you'll get less sway.
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01-02-2019, 11:12 PM
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#26
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: no fixed address, California
Trailer: 2017-21' Escape (sold) Casita 17' (sold)
Posts: 1,348
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Quote:
Originally Posted by almost born canadian
Before we purchased our 19' Escape we had a F250 Crew Cab turbo diesel and a Northern Lite pick up camper. The diesel F250 was an awesome hill climber and tow machine. It got pretty decent highway mileage too.
One thing to check out on the new F250: measure the height of the cab back wall from the pick up bed to top of the truck. Compare that to the same dimension on the pick up camper. F250 Super Duty, our 2006 model anyway, required a 3" platform (I made a pink foam and plywood sandwich) under the camper to raise it enough to clear the top of the Ford cab (camper bed goes out toward front of truck). The 3" sandwich was a moderate inconvenience and added to the sway of the camper when driving. Just something to investigate when considering brands.
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The nice thing about Hallmark is that they seem very on top of how each truck is a different size.... and making sure the camper will fit properly.
or so it seems.
cheers
J
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01-03-2019, 10:19 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Naugatuck, Connecticut
Trailer: 2017 50 TA, 2016 F150, 2.7 Ecoboost
Posts: 1,056
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Quote:
Originally Posted by War Eagle
Don't forget resale value of the diesel version. Two weeks ago, I finally parted with our 1999 F-250 with the 7.3L turbo-diesel and got right at 50% of what I purchased it new for 20 years ago. Pretty good return on investment...
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Pretty sure your no where near 1/2 the cost of a new one.
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01-03-2019, 10:49 AM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,532
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chotch
Pretty sure your no where near 1/2 the cost of a new one.
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Yeah, my first new Super Duty Lariat with the Power Stroke was a 2002 (had used ones before that), and the same truck configured the same is about 60% more now.
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01-13-2019, 04:53 AM
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#29
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Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Weston, Connecticut
Trailer: 21 foot
Posts: 21
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F150, 2013 a gem
We have a 2013, F150 with the Escape 21 5.0 TA.....
Love, Love, LOVE him!!!!!
And our camper fits perfectly on our goose neck hitch!!!
We are Boondockersa!! Great truck...America n made!
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01-13-2019, 09:05 AM
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#30
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Site Team
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mid Left Coast, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21
Posts: 5,122
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I have an older F250, a 2002 superduty diesel longbed. My biggest complaint is the turning circle is truly awful, like 62 feet curb to curb. this can make maneuvering a trailer in tight quarters really painful. the 7.3 diesel gets typically 15 MPG towing an escape 21, with a full load of gear in the truck. the 38 gallon diesel tank means I can go all day on a single fillup.
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01-13-2019, 12:01 PM
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#31
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: no fixed address, California
Trailer: 2017-21' Escape (sold) Casita 17' (sold)
Posts: 1,348
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
I have an older F250, a 2002 superduty diesel longbed. My biggest complaint is the turning circle is truly awful, like 62 feet curb to curb. this can make maneuvering a trailer in tight quarters really painful. the 7.3 diesel gets typically 15 MPG towing an escape 21, with a full load of gear in the truck. the 38 gallon diesel tank means I can go all day on a single fillup.
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The current F350 the *radius* is 23.8 to 29.8′
so on the longest 350 (what we would get) would be almost 60' curb to curb. Ug.
the good news is we would not be towing, in terms of this.
our current tug, while not towing (MDX) is a radius of almost 19'. Quite different. Much shorter vehicle of course.
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01-14-2019, 09:16 AM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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01-14-2019, 03:51 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
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Interesting, although it would not affect the Ford SuperDuty line (F-250, F-350, etc). The intent is clearly for each of the partners to fill in what the other is missing, so for instance VW would be the car line for North America (since Ford is abandoning that), as well as collaborating in areas that both are weak. VW has nothing to contribute to the market in which the SuperDuty sells, and I doubt that putting VW emblems on these trucks would benefit anyone.
There is a mention in the article of the next generation of Ranger and Amarok (the VW pickup, not sold here); that reinforces the common idea that since the Ranger which has just been introduced in North America is already "mature", a replacement is due soon.
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