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Old 12-30-2018, 12:50 PM   #1
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Question Ford F-250/350 likes / dislikes / options? generally speaking

Hello wise people of the Escape Forum.

For people who own an F 150-250-350... what are your likes / dislikes / happy to have options? generally speaking.

In the long term we may well buy a 2019 or 2020 Ford F350 (big cab with 4 real doors) with an 8' bed, and single rear wheels.... as we may switch to a Hallmark pop up camper. We will custom order it, for sure, with the specific things that are good for that setup.... been researching this a bunch on many other forums.

Pretty much sold on the Ford F-350. Yes it would be good to have that much weight capacity.

The 2020 model is rumored to have a new 7 L v8, plus a new heavy duty 10 speed transmission.

thanks!

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Old 12-30-2018, 01:14 PM   #3
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The Hallmark truck camper looks like a really nice unit
We have been looking at 3/4 and 1 ton trucks .
From what we’re seeing there is not a huge difference in cost between the two
We’ll see come Spring !
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John,
My buddy just purchased an F-350 for his new fifth wheel. There was almost no inventory and nothing that was configured the way he wanted. Had to order it in October. Still waiting for the truck, even though it's rumored to be in his city for the last two weeks.
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The Hallmark truck camper looks like a really nice unit
We have been looking at 3/4 and 1 ton trucks .
From what we’re seeing there is not a huge difference in cost between the two
We’ll see come Spring !
Heya Steve - I have been researching for a while. Given how lovely the Escape is for thermal insulation and solidity.. and how nice the fit and finish is on our Escape - it makes me very fussy about a possible shift to a pop up.

Four Wheel Campers are nice, but fairly basic, and metal on metal can cause thermal transfer to the inside. Hallmarks design avoids this entirely plus also gives more strength, I think. Yet still has 4 flexible seams to handle the inevitable flex.

Steve are you leaning towards a Ford as well? Yes a remarkably similar price between F250 and F350. I am told springs are the main difference.

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Hello wise people of the Escape Forum.

For people who own an F 150-250-350... what are your likes / dislikes / happy to have options? generally speaking.

In the long term we may well buy a 2019 or 2020 Ford F350 (big cab with 4 real doors) with an 8' bed, and single rear wheels.... as we may switch to a Hallmark pop up camper. We will custom order it, for sure, with the specific things that are good for that setup.... been researching this a bunch on many other forums.

Pretty much sold on the Ford F-350. Yes it would be good to have that much weight capacity.

The 2020 model is rumored to have a new 7 L v8, plus a new heavy duty 10 speed transmission.

thanks!

J.
My dad had an old F 350 fleetside….it was a total tank and rode like one! Not sure the Hallmark would be enough weight to soften it up some. If it were me I would look at the F 250 and a diesel. I have seen the Hallmark campers and they are VERY nice. There are times I miss my slide in pop up...mostly when we find rough roads or places that are tough to get into/turn around with the Escape. I do really enjoy my escape. Hope you find what works for you!
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My dad had an old F 350 fleetside….it was a total tank and rode like one! Not sure the Hallmark would be enough weight to soften it up some. If it were me I would look at the F 250 and a diesel. I have seen the Hallmark campers and they are VERY nice. There are times I miss my slide in pop up...mostly when we find rough roads or places that are tough to get into/turn around with the Escape. I do really enjoy my escape. Hope you find what works for you!
Thanks for the thoughts. I test drove a new F 350 and it was ok. Not terribly tank like.

We won’t go diesel as we go way off the beaten path where there is no diesel.

Plus it adds about $9,000 and 900 lbs. Both very bad for our needs.

Would not ever drive enough to get the $9,000 back.

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My dad had an old F 350 fleetside….it was a total tank and rode like one! Not sure the Hallmark would be enough weight to soften it up some. If it were me I would look at the F 250 and a diesel. I have seen the Hallmark campers and they are VERY nice. There are times I miss my slide in pop up...mostly when we find rough roads or places that are tough to get into/turn around with the Escape. I do really enjoy my escape. Hope you find what works for you!
My buddy owns a Ram 2500 Cummins Diesel , nice truck , nice ride
The payload for his truck is under 2100 lbs due to the Diesel engine , if It had the gas engine the payload would be over 2700 lbs
So I am not sure that a 3/4 ton diesel truck would necessarily work with a Halmark camper
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We have been looking at 3/4 and 1 ton trucks .
From what we’re seeing there is not a huge difference in cost between the two
There's little cost difference because there's little difference in the trucks. I'm not saying that you can just change a part or two and make an F-250 into an F-350 (for example) or vice versa, but there are relatively few components which differ between them, within any brand, so the cost doesn't change much. Just configure for your requirements; which of these models that turns out to be isn't very important.

In contrast, there are substantial mechanical differences between the lighter-duty light trucks (F-150, GM 1500, Ram 1500, etc) and the heavier-duty light trucks (F-SuperDuty, GM 2500/3500, Ram 2500/3500) of the same brand, such as different engine choices and different suspension designs, and almost entirely distinct sets of chassis components.
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We won’t go diesel as we go way off the beaten path where there is no diesel.

Plus it adds about $9,000 and 900 lbs. Both very bad for our needs.
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My buddy owns a Ram 2500 Cummins Diesel , nice truck , nice ride
The payload for his truck is under 2100 lbs due to the Diesel engine , if It had the gas engine the payload would be over 2700 lbs
So I am not sure that a 3/4 ton diesel truck would necessarily work with a Halmark camper
This is a well-established problem, and it's good to see that it is understood. When Nissan introduced the heavier "XD" version of their Titan, with an optional diesel, it became apparent that the diesel is so heavy that moving up to the XD gives you a choice of a diesel or more payload... but not both. Trying to get both (in brands that offer a complete range of choices) becomes an exercise in escalation that easily leads to a very expensive truck which weighs five tons... empty.
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