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Old 11-04-2012, 02:58 AM   #11
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Smile tilting toward tacoma

After reading what people are saying on this thread so far, I am thinking that both vehicles are certainly competent. The Tacoma SR5 has a few more amenities for a little more money than the Frontier, whereas the Frontier has more power but slightly less fuel economy (only comparing V6-4WD-5spd auto). Although some reviewers report that the brakes feel mushy in the Tacoma, it has tested with the shortest breaking distance of midsized trucks. However, the Tacoma has also been reviewed as having less emergency manueverability than the Frontier. I am attracted to the bells and whistles on the more modern Tacoma dashboard and to the standard composite bedliner.

If you tow with the Tacoma:

1. How closely does the above description of Tacoma's handling match your experience?

2. Is the power plenty 'nough sufficient to tow the 5.0 over the Cascades? Have you ever felt that is was insufficient?

3. Do you always feel comfortable and secure with the ride and handling? -- even over long distances or in sudden emergencies?

If a few more kind folks respond over the next several days, I will go out and buy one or the other of these vehicles--maybe right after election day! Cast your vote now. Thanks for your help!
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Old 11-04-2012, 06:24 AM   #12
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Hi: aldertree2... I can't comment about specifics of a Taco as I never even considered one. What affected me was the fact that my brother had one. Took it to the dealer for a small repair and had his truck condemned right there on the hoist. The frame was rusted through so badly as to make it unsafe at any speed. He couldn't even take all his tools home with it!!!
Toyota gave him a lot of money for it...if he bought another Taco. Still cost him 5 grand + out of his pocket. Alf
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Old 11-04-2012, 11:03 AM   #13
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The only problem with that recollection is that I had a Nissan King Cab and it suffered acne. Blobs of body rust all over it. I got little for it in trade.
If I were buying, I would certainly investigate the Tacoma frame issue, but I wouldn't condemn the vehicle without recent evidence of problems.
Of course my Toyota RAV4 has no frame, being unibody.

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Old 11-04-2012, 11:18 AM   #14
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All the big vehicle manufacturers had problems with rust at one time or another. There was a point (15 years ago? 20?) where they were using recycled steel in their manufacturing, but the recycling wasn't done correctly and they were getting little bits of rust in their new product, with such little bits acting as starting points for rust on the new vehicle.

There's also a fairly common problem regarding rusty vehicles where I grew up (west coast of Canada). Before you buy a used truck, you want to know if the previous owner ever towed a boat. Launching a boat off a trailer, you invariably get your vehicle wet. If it's the ocean, you get it wet with salt water. Guaranteed to rust out your vehicle early. So bad rust on one truck might or might not mean anything -- I'd want to see some statistics before I considered rust in a decision.
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Old 11-04-2012, 11:51 AM   #15
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Hi: dbailey... The rust was good old Ottawa/Orleans type of corrosion!!! Far from the ocean...but not far from the salt mines of Lake Huron. The fact that Toy. had a recall on frame rust and a very generous "trade in" for those trucks makes me suspect at best. No vehicle is immune so a good program of say Krown corrosion protection is still necessary in S. Wet Ontario. Alf
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:35 PM   #16
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Having grown up and working on cars in Nova Scotia rust is a real problem that all car companys have had problems with. If you live in a high corrosion area the car must be protected with some sort of undercoating and have it maintained and still it won't last like it would in drier areas.
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:39 PM   #17
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I'm a bit suspicious of the after-market rust proofing. Limited experience, and I understand that the one data point doesn't make a trend. Driving our 1992 Corolla around Ottawa for 15 years, we observed that the first places to rust was around all the holes they drilled spraying into the interior panels. This was Rust Check, first applied when the car was 2 or 3 years old, and then reapplied every year until it started rusting anyways.

I've sort of concluded that vehicles will rust, not matter what you do with them. Obviously more so where there's salt in the air (coastal) or where it's used on the roads.
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Advice I received on rustproofing is that when asked by the sales person if you want this option, say no. Because what he is really asking you is, 'do you want to pay for rust proofing?' because the cars have had it done at the factory.
As for the tar-like substance that they used to use, and maybe still do, I was advised that it only works until chipped by a rock. Then the rust works it's magic out of sight, covered by the 'rust proofing'.

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Years ago I had a new 1990 Jeep get Ziebart treatment, a clear spray inside doors and engine and black tar underneath. It was reapplied yearly for 5-6 years until Ziebart went out of business locally. My step son is still driving it, rust free after 22 years. Oh, I also had the paint protection service done and the car's paint is just starting to fade. It has been an outside vehicle.
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Was listening to CBC radio this morning. Twas mostly to do with U.S. election. One of the guests was a professor who described a phenomenon to do with what we believe. We have a strong inclination to accept evidence that backs up our beliefs and to discard evidence that does not.
So, don't expect any of the above to change your mind or anybody else.

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