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Old 11-04-2012, 04:09 PM   #21
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I've towed my 19 over some big mountain passes, and power was never an issue. The handling in my opinion is good for a pickup, and my brakes have always felt firm.

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Old 11-04-2012, 05:05 PM   #22
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We have a strong inclination to accept evidence that backs up our beliefs and to discard evidence that does not.
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There's even a term for it: "confirmation bias".

The brain is a tricky thing. We're not as rational as we'd like to believe.

That's why the scientific method and the design of experiments is/are so important. So much of it is intended to prevent scientists from fooling themselves.
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Old 11-04-2012, 06:53 PM   #23
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The trick is to buy new and trade up every 5 years. The trade in pays for the depreciation and taxes of the new tug. Some one else can worry about the rust. Toys went from a box frame to a [ frame so it's not as much a problem as it once was.
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baglo, I used to think that many people had bad sources and that if they would just get better sources, they would know what was going on. Well, it depends a great deal upon the subject matter. I have come to the conclusion that many have sources to hear what they want, even if it is nonsense, and often even if they know it is nonsense. They are listening or reading where they know that the views appeal to them. What that professor was saying certainly applies.

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Old 11-04-2012, 08:34 PM   #25
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I've always preferred to buy a vehicle and drive it into the ground. A vehicle looses most of its value in the first five years. My experience (3 vehicles now) is that I get about 15 years years out of a vehicle before it starts to cost too much to maintain it. I believe new cost spread over 15 years is less than new cost minus trade in value spread over 5 years.

Of course I spend 5 of the 15 years driving a vehicle that is distinctly *not* new. That's not for everybody.
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:15 PM   #26
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Most of the cars I have worked on do not have any real form of rust prevention from the factory, I would agree that drilling holes into a new car seems dumb, there are much better ways to get the stuff in the doors and rocker panels. These areas all have access but may require some work to get in there. It isn't such a big deal here in Alberta but a car not undercoated in some fashion around the ocean salt air will rust before you know it.
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:24 PM   #27
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On the coast, here in BC, it's Common Knowledge ( for what that's worth ) that you avoid used cars brought to BC from Alberta and Ontario because they rust, unlike cars here on the wet coast.
It's road salt, not salt air that's the culprit, according to Common Knowledge.

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Old 11-04-2012, 10:36 PM   #28
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I grew up in B.C., and currently live in Ontario. I can tell you, both are bad but road salt is worse. When I was first married in 1986, we had a 1978 VW microbus with no rust on it. We drove it in Vancouver for 2 years with no sign of rust. When we moved to Ontario, it only lasted 4 years before it was badly rusted. A real shame...
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Baglo, Although it is true that road salt is way worse than just the salt air, the other factor is humidity, the worst I have seen on used cars is actually when our dealership bought a bunch of used cars @ auction from Quebec, But Ontario isn`t much better. I have also seen some very rusty ones from B.C as well.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:21 AM   #30
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Never mind to that last question. I finally found the thread that goes into this.

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