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Old 06-29-2015, 03:54 AM   #31
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Based on the above posts, it looks like the best mpg I can expect when pulling my 17b, is around 15-16 mpg, perhaps with a RAV 4 or Ford Ranger. When thinking about mpg, I'm curious if anyone would recommend any other tow vehicles I should consider, besides those mentioned above.

I might note I bought a new Prius last year, and would like to buy a used tow vehicle. Thanks.
I tow my 17 b with a highlander does a very good job and a pleasant car to drive when not towing
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Old 06-29-2015, 06:21 AM   #32
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A pickup truck with a light cap on the rear would create less drag with a conventional trailer, would it not?
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Old 06-29-2015, 07:21 AM   #33
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A pickup truck with a light cap on the rear would create less drag with a conventional trailer, would it not?
I think it would help the aerodynamics a little, Jim. If the cap were tall enough in the back and sloped upwards to direct some air over the top of the trailer, that would probably be even better.
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:21 AM   #34
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I think the forum documents the reality of "two foot itis." Will your TV for the 17b manage the 19 or 21 you just have to have in 3-4 years?
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:35 AM   #35
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Maurerl: your post raises a different question: I assumed one would tow a trailer with an automatic transmission. Is a manual transmission a viable alternative? Thanks.
I'm towing an Escape 19 with a 6sp manual Tacoma with 4.0L and a towing package. Works fine for me.

I live in the mountains and have yet to see an automatic that knows what gear I want to be in.

The truck has 102k on it and will likely need a clutch at some point, it's been trouble free, so far. In my experience, heavy duty clutches are always available as a replacement and are always the last clutch I buy for a vehicle. I've never replaced 2.
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Old 06-29-2015, 10:58 AM   #36
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When I was looking for a new tow vehicle, fuel efficency was far down my list of necessary attributes .Towing capacity ,payload ,braking , handling, ride ,comfort ETC were more important than fuel economy . I would rather loose a little gas mileage than being exhausted at the end of the day from white knuckle towing . I have often questioned the logic of buying a 35k + Escape 21 ft and then towing it with an inadequate vehicle just to gain 1 MPG. Gaining better fuel econom at the cost of safety is not a fair trade IMHO. I tow with a 1/2 ton fullsize pickup truck with a 5.7 liter V8 , +WDH and find it adequate for towing my trailer.
Everyone has a different comfort level , so what you value may differ
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Old 06-29-2015, 11:00 AM   #37
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Maurerl: your post raises a different question: I assumed one would tow a trailer with an automatic transmission. Is a manual transmission a viable alternative? Thanks.
We have a 2013 Nissan Xterra. Had to threaten the dealer with going to Toyota for him to order a manual Xterra for us. They are rare, but we demanded a manual transmission. Have always had manuals and find them better than any automatic we've seen.

It works fine towing our 19. Don't know that it helps with mileage, we get between 13 and 15 mpg, most likely in the middle of this at 14. We generally travel between 55 and 60 mph and do see a difference in gas mileage between 55 and 60.

A manual has advantages. You know what gear you're in, if it's wrong it's your own fault. They shift when you ask, not before or after. Much better for getting out of a snow bank. I find them better off road. Prevent theft, it's getting to the point crooks don't know how to drive a manual. Etc.

So, yes a manual is a valid alternative, at least for us.

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Old 06-29-2015, 11:09 AM   #38
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I wonder what the hit will be when you go to sell or trade a manual transmission vehicle. Sort of like a trailer without a bath.
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I wonder what the hit will be when you go to sell or trade a manual transmission vehicle. Sort of like a trailer without a bath.
Ours will be a rare and valuable item. So many people will be searching for such an Xterra we'll be able to sell it for a mint.

No, really. We buy vehicles for the long term, 10-15 years. The resale value isn't a consideration for us.

You might be right though. It sure would limit the number of buyers. There will be a group looking specifically for a manual though. It'd likely be harder to find that buyer, so harder to sell or trade.
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