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Old 06-21-2016, 06:54 PM   #31
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No, it's the same. Trailer weight calculations allow for the weight of a driver, but that driver allowance is not part of the curb weight.
Yes... as demonstrated in many discussions in this forum. One challenge is that GCWR can be hard to find for vehicles other than pickup trucks and commercial vehicles. Another challenge, which was already mentioned, is that curb weight for a base version of the vehicle is relatively easy to find but actual curb weight is a little harder to find... or just less likely to be accepted by the owner wearing rose coloured glasses.
Brian, that must be something that varies between manufacturers. When I was shopping for our Highlander, the Toyota owners manual for the Highlander (downloaded from the website) listed everything and very specifically for each model. Toyota offers very few "options" anymore (you need to pick a model level that matches as close to what you want) so the weights and capacities are very specific. I posted that picture above to show the sticker indicating that my capacity was dropped slightly due to the extra weight of the tow package.
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Old 06-21-2016, 07:26 PM   #32
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Brian, that must be something that varies between manufacturers. When I was shopping for our Highlander, the Toyota owners manual for the Highlander (downloaded from the website) listed everything and very specifically for each model.
Yes, and it also varies within the same manufacturer, and even between years of the same model. My 2004 Sienna manual includes the GCWR, but some later years don't. The Highlander manual is great, but the RAV4 manual doesn't mention GCWR. The old Matrix manual (I haven't looked at a recent one, and that model is now gone) barely admitted that towing was possible.

Generally, within a manufacturer the more likely a model is to be used for towing - or perhaps the more that the model is promoted for towing - the better the information in the manual.
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Old 06-24-2016, 03:39 PM   #33
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I just drove 2500 miles,thru the Cascades, Glacier National Park, Yellowstone with my 2013 F150 Supercrew 3.5L EcoBoast, 3.31 rr axle, equipped with trailer tow pkg, brake controller. Handled our new 5.0 TA with no problem.
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