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Old 05-19-2014, 11:03 PM   #11
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Brian, I'm not confusing anything. Nothing will change the dry weight of the trailer. The one thing we can all change is how we pack. Water, cast iron, wood for fires, heavy lounge chairs, etc., etc., etc., all add to the final weight for the tug. AND, then there is where you tow... the flats or over the Rocky Mts...
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:10 PM   #12
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At more than 8 lbs per gallon, why would you ever want to pay the MPG on your tug?
Not willingly, of course.

Some of our favorite camping locations - NM, West Texas, etc - have some of the worst water in the country. Try Roswell, NM for example. You can watch the flakes of gypsum salts settle to the bottom of every glass of tap water. I really do have to haul the good stuff all the way from home on many occasions.

(In the "old days", we used to dry camp and had to backpack 5 gallons for 3 miles uphill. Apparently the trails never went downhill, in the old days.)

And yes, I have hauled buckets of grey water to the privy and understand the need to keep the grey/black tanks empty if at all possible. But the advice - direct from ETI - says with the fresh water tank it's all or nothing. A half-full tank sloshes too much.

I'm sure someone with a V6 - past or present - will be able to help.
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:15 PM   #13
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Total payload on the Tacoma is listed around 1450 pounds. Adding up two passengers and a full tank of gas to be around 450 pounds

Sorry, this isn't totally germane to the main point of this thread.

No need to include the weight of a tank of gas in the payload calculations. GVWR is curb weight plus payload, curb weight includes full tank of fuel.

Thus, already saving yourself a few lbs. in your calculations.......
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:19 PM   #14
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Thank you Jamie, you just saved me enough weight to compensate for a couple of trail bicycles.
(See, no limit to my want-it-all.... On the other hand, Susannah would be happy with a 15 and a couple of pairs of clean socks for a week. We'll have to compromise. )
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:54 PM   #15
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But the advice - direct from ETI - says with the fresh water tank it's all or nothing. A half-full tank sloshes too much.
I hadn't heard this - I can guess, but what is their concern?
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Old 05-20-2014, 12:36 AM   #16
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It's not just ETI, all brands of all molded towables will tell you a partial tank of water sloshes (okay, OLIVER is adding battles). If water sloshes, you end up with different axles weights as you go down the road. BUT these fresh water tanks aren't huge. Like some MOHOs and 5th wheels. It MAY not be a big concern for YOU.
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Old 05-20-2014, 02:30 AM   #17
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Firewood is another thing to get at your destination. Stop those undesirable invasive species from hitching a ride to a new home. Some places it's even illegal to bring wood from out of the area.
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Old 05-20-2014, 04:37 AM   #18
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I have no experience with the Tacoma but I do believe it is a tad small for the 5.0TA. Subtract out the 120 lb tank of gas, you are still getting close to the max payload, especially when you add in all your planned extras.

1450 payload
-330 passengers
-900 projected loaded pin weight
-100 Hitch weight

Will it pull the trailer, yes. Will it handle the payload, not the way you want to be able to use it. Will you like the ride, maybe, maybe not.

The 21 or used 5.0 may fit your needs/wants better then the TA.
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Bob,
what do you plan to tow your TA with?
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F150 Ecoboost, 2200 lbs payload
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