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Old 02-25-2013, 09:21 AM   #71
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See post above you...Alf has that set up.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:45 PM   #72
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wouldn't a tacoma or frontier also pull a 19ft?
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:50 PM   #73
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yes... with v6, they both have >6000lbs tow rating. The talk about the 5.0 just had me wondering what the possibilities were.
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:39 PM   #74
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Doug, you should have no surprises if you buy a trailer and vehicle and go weigh them loaded at truck scales. What you first need now is the GVWR, then the max loaded weight allowed for the trailer and then the GCWR, all given by the manufacturers. You add the first two to make sure you will not exceed the third (GCWR).

Loaded weights for trailers obtained by owners are on FiberglassRV Forum.

The towing capacity given may or may not be reliable but you will soon find out if you do the above.
You can take your present vehicle loaded with passengers, fuel and camping gear to scales to determine approximately how much you will be loading into any vehicle. (Subtract that model's curb weight from the total.)

The tongue weight is a percentage so you do not have that until you have the above. Our tongue weight is not someone else's and you should not assume that yours is ours or anyone else's. I would not go by others vehicles without doing all of the numbers for myself since loads can vary considerably.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:00 AM   #75
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hmmm... what are the requirements on the pickup for a 5.0? Could a Tacoma or Frontier pull one?
Hi: dbailey...We pull with a Nissan Frontier V6 4X4 Crew Cab 4Dr. Long bed. No extra suspension or sway control required. Hooking up is a breeze and the hitch is covered with the tonneau when were out sightseeing. Alf
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:30 AM   #76
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Thanks, Alf. The wife has declared she doesn't like the 5.0 relative to the 19. It felt more closed in. Having large windows at both ends of the 19 does make it feel like a bigger space. I'm less certain, but I see her point.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:04 PM   #77
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What you first need now is the GVWR, then the max loaded weight allowed for the trailer and then the GCWR, all given by the manufacturers. You add the first two to make sure you will not exceed the third (GCWR).
Close, but not quite. Neither the tug nor the trailer needs to be loaded to its Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR), so you only need to add the tug's curb weight (not GVWR) to the trailer's equipped but empty weight, and compare that total to the tug's GCWR: whatever is left over is your allowance for driver, passengers, cargo (in tug and trailer) and water etc. in the trailer tanks.

If you use the gross weight ratings (GVWR), you will be considering the worst possible case; you may choose to do this, but it is not necessary.

The tug's curb weight and the trailer's empty weight can be from manufacturer's specs or, preferably, by actually weighing.

In addition to GCWR, the limits imposed by the tug's GVWR, Gross Axle Weight Ratings (GAWR, front and especially rear), and hitch weight limit all need to be considered; however, I agree that GCWR is a good place to start.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:27 PM   #78
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Here is a link giving you definition of these terms:
Towing Definitions-Understanding Towing weight terms - Fiberglass RV
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:43 PM   #79
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Hi dbailey,
Just food for thought. I towed my 19' with a 2008 town & country van v6 3.8litre. We went from Ont to the Carolinas through the mountains and back home with no problems.

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The Town & Country seems to be rated for towing 3500 lbs. I'd prefer a little more margin when pulling a 19.
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