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Old 02-20-2016, 03:39 AM   #11
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19' Escape and 2015 Colorado here. Had some guts climbing some of the steepest grades we encountered last summer. Is it overkill? Not even close. But I am confident behind the wheel when towing and it was within my budget. Plus my wife uses it as her daily and its been great for urban driving. I just couldn't do a giant truck for the sake of "going big".
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Old 02-20-2016, 05:15 AM   #12
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Here's a visual: Cowboys on Shetland ponies, that's adequate right? And no, not everybody is right on this issue. It's about safety and ultimately what is your budget for that? I've seen countless vehicles with trailers crawling up steep grades posing a significant hazard to others who had to maneuver around them. We do have a responsibility to others who share the road, indifference to them is dangerous. Hey "just go around" is plain bad manners.
I guess if I was to follow your logic to it's completion I would be pulling my 17B with my 500 HP Mack truck.
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Old 02-20-2016, 08:20 AM   #13
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This idea has been covered numerous times between here and the Fiberglassrv forum.
I think we can all agree on this.
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Old 02-20-2016, 08:35 AM   #14
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I think Mark is so happy with his new Escape and the way it tows that he feels he has, like many of us feel, the perfect combo. Being new to both Escape and the forum he may not be aware of past discussions. Let him bask in the afterglow we all have experienced and perhaps later others will report their own towing experiences also. Happiness is contagious....
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Old 02-20-2016, 09:57 AM   #15
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Go big on your tow vehicle...seriously folks

Jim that's not "afterglow"
That's a cloud of diesel and Mark going up a hill passing everyone.

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Old 02-20-2016, 10:11 AM   #16
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How the heck is towing with a vehicle rated for what you are towing, often with some capacity to spare, any less safe than towing with a vehicle that is way overrated for this use? If the tow vehicle is in good shape, and the brakes and brake controller are all set up properly, there is not safety issue.

Performance IS NOT safety!

Sure, there can be extreme cases, but those are very rare, and if we protected ourselves to the nth degree to live life as safe as possible, it would certainly get boring holed away in our bubbles.

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I don't think it's about big or small, but finding the happy medium between capability, towing capacity, and mileage.
All those things plus usability.

A lot depends on the overall usage of the vehicle. If you are exclusively towing with it, then I fully agree a larger vehicle is fine. The mileage when towing is often comparable between larger and smaller tow vehicles. But often, the vehicles intended purpose is more than just towing.

Often the vehicle is used if side trips while camping, and having the trailer set up for a long period of time. Having a smaller mid-sized SUV can be a way more practical run around vehicle than a large pickup. As well, many use the same vehicle at home a lot too, often more than the time spent travelling with a trailer. Again, the smaller vehicle wins hands down.
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Everyone thinks his TV is best and he or she is probably right --- for that owner's situation.
This is a BIG factor in one's opinions on what tow vehicle is best. Folks make a decision based on what works best for their situation, both in cost, safety, comfort, and desire.

I will use my tow vehicle for way more than towing, and have outfitted it to work with, and as a general use vehicle too. I tried to get the smallest vehicle possible to do this with. It was the necessary payload capacity that was the key element in vehicle choice with the 5.0TA, not towing capacity, that I had to meet.

If I was still towing a 19, or even a 21, I would look for the most suitable mid-sized SUV. And I love pickups for what they can do, I have owned one pretty much my whole adult life.

As long as it works for you, and meets manufacturer specs, it is a good choice.

What is disrespectful to others, is to put down their choice in tow vehicles, just because it differs from your's.
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Old 02-20-2016, 10:26 AM   #17
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Hey Jim- was enjoying a nice civilized discussion, now you come with your full flailing defense mode and end it pointing fingers. Disrepectful? You're just trying to shut Mark down when there was some respectful back & forth. Just because you are a moderator doesn't give you like license to slam and ridicule people. How about backing off for a change?
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Jims post makes sense and seemed well thought out.

I have talked to many people towing 21's with Tacomas and Nissan trucks with no issues. A couple of them had been "on the road" for the better part of a year, non stop. The weight of the 21 is well within the tow rating on those small trucks.

I will pick up my 21 soon with a F-150 but really dont like the huge size of the truck and when I replace it as a tv, I will likely get a Tacoma. Like someone else said, if you are operating in the rated tow range of the vehicle, it is pretty much just pesonal preference.
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Go big on your tow vehicle...seriously folks

I don't see anything disrespectful in Jim's post he was just stating his opinion on a subject that's has already been discussed to death ten times over already.

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Hey Jim- was enjoying a nice civilized discussion, now you come with your full flailing defense mode and end it pointing fingers. Disrepectful? You're just trying to shut Mark down when there was some respectful back & forth. Just because you are a moderator doesn't give you like license to slam and ridicule people. How about backing off for a change?
You're kidding, right? Everyone else should have their say on a topic that has already been discussed dozens of times, but my opinion should be withheld?

I am not, nor have ever been a moderator here. Slam and ridicule? Not my way of doing things at all. Just stating an opinion.
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