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Old 02-20-2016, 10:47 AM   #21
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A lot of people like myself came into towing a trailer with no prior experience. My experience is towing a 17B first with a Murano, which didn't have a tow package, and when sensing it might not be all that great invested in a Highlander. Then four months later a 21 popped up on a revised production list. While I know people using a "Mid-Size" V-6 SUV I am glad we bit the bullet for a Yukon SLT as we drive a lot of mountain grades. Like Monitor Pass- 8 mile 8% grade. Hwy 50 from Montrose to Gunnison had our trans temp go to 225 with outside air at 65.

For those who tow mainly in the flats I would agree that safety is not much of a concern and it is more of how much do you want to work.

The real question here it seems to me for those contemplating both the 21 and 5.0TA is what percentage of owners use a Full-Size vs. not.
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Old 02-20-2016, 10:47 AM   #22
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Hey Jim- was enjoying a nice civilized discussion, now you come with your full flailing defense mode and end it pointing fingers. Disrepectful? You're just trying to shut Mark down when there was some respectful back & forth. Just because you are a moderator doesn't give you like license to slam and ridicule people. How about backing off for a change?
Hi: Rossue... Every one has had their say about our combo. I never got any feed back from the readers of Trailer Life saying I couldn't tow a 5.0TA with my truck. So far I'm glad I didn't trade her in for a Titan and price wise the new Titan diesel is way past my ability to own one.
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Old 02-20-2016, 10:51 AM   #23
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Jim that's not "afterglow"
That's a cloud of diesel and Mark going up a hill passing everyone.

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That was FUNNY

Jim was the one using the D word at Mark with no basis other than he evidently and not surprisingly didn't like his post.
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Don't recall seeing many (any?) molded fiberglass trailers crawling in the slow lanes; they are usually either motorhomes or giant sun-blocker trailers.....
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Old 02-20-2016, 10:59 AM   #25
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ETI was known as a builder of small light trailers. This forum and ETI now encourages 2 footitis and purchasing the high profit 21 and 5th wheel. Those big boxes can be filled easily and are no longer 'light' trailers.

To me this discussion should be that, openly sharing ideas, but the site team continues to perpetuate the myths they believe are truths. I encourage them to limit their posts and let the members exchange ideas without the heavy handed responses immediately to every post.

Site Team, notice how many times you jump in immediately and contol the conversation. Please back off and stop driving users that don't share your views into being frustrated 'lurkers' .... Like me.
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That was FUNNY



Jim was the one using the D word at Mark with no basis other than he evidently and not surprisingly didn't like his post.

I think his post rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, myself included. Everyone's choice of tow vehicles is just that their choice. This should be respected just as their particular choice of trailer.

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Old 02-20-2016, 11:01 AM   #27
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I knew this was a hot topic when I started the thread. Yes, you can find it archived but that's a pain and not always current. FYI folks, the manufacturers' tow ratings were not standardized until approx. 2015 so everything to date is advertising and arbitrary. I think we all tend to want our vehicles to fit in a garage, get great mileage, tow our Escape etc. My point is don't exclude other factors such as brake size and type, cooling capacity, wheel base, vehicle track/width, frame construction (if any) etc. To focus on "max tow ratings" so specifically is naive...way too many metrics involved to settle on a single number. By the way, I'm no lead foot and if I thought my Frontier was suitable I would use it, but it is not up to the task like my old GMC.
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ETI was known as a builder of small light trailers. This forum and ETI now encourages 2 footitis and purchasing the high profit 21 and 5th wheel. Those big boxes can be filled easily and are no longer 'light' trailers.



To me this discussion should be that, openly sharing ideas, but the site team continues to perpetuate the myths they believe are truths. I encourage them to limit their posts and let the members exchange ideas without the heavy handed responses immediately to every post.



Site Team, notice how many times you jump in immediately and contol the conversation. Please back off and stop driving users that don't share your views into being frustrated 'lurkers' .... Like me.

Darn now I never thought of my pride and joy (Escape 5.0TA) as a "Big Box" but more as one of the smallest and lightest 5th wheels on the market.
Still thinking about not letting evil site team have their opinions the same as everyone else, nope that won't work in my mind.
Glenn, Jim and other site team members contributions are always appreciated by me.

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That was FUNNY

Jim was the one using the D word at Mark with no basis other than he evidently and not surprisingly didn't like his post.
Hi: Rossue... Down here in Gulf St. Pk. Ala... is the land of mega rigs towed by some very "Serious trucks". The noise level from the diesels haulin' by is LOUD as we are on site #1 just inside the park gate house. They all slow down and some even do a double take going past. "Why looky thar hun...It's a tiny 5th. wheel".
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To me this discussion should be that, openly sharing ideas, but the site team continues to perpetuate the myths they believe are truths. I encourage them to limit their posts and let the members exchange ideas without the heavy handed responses immediately to every post.

Site Team, notice how many times you jump in immediately and contol the conversation. Please back off and stop driving users that don't share your views into being frustrated 'lurkers' .... Like me.
this is funny.

This is my first post in this thread.

Glenn posted: Depends if you have to park it at Safeway.

Jim posted: I think Mark is so happy with his new Escape and the way it tows that he feels he has, like many of us feel, the perfect combo. Being new to both Escape and the forum he may not be aware of past discussions. Let him bask in the afterglow we all have experienced and perhaps later others will report their own towing experiences also. Happiness is contagious....

I think someone is confused. Glad it's not me...
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