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Old 08-09-2018, 09:05 PM   #1
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Gooseneck hitch with a 5.0

Terry and I were walking around town tonight and a farmer went by with his cattle trailer that used a gooseneck hitch. Has anyone ever used one with a 5.0 ?

I imagine this will be a quickly answered thread.

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I do. That is what my Anderson Ultimate connects to.
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Terry and I were walking around town tonight and a farmer went by with his cattle trailer that used a gooseneck hitch. Has anyone ever used one with a 5.0 ?

I imagine this will be a quickly answered thread.

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You could I suppose, but I can't imagine why you'd want to modify.

Having said that, the Andersen Ultimate Hitch is something like a gooseneck because the trailer is fitted with a coupler and the hitch is fitted with a ball. Lots of forum members use that hitch.
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I do. That is what my Anderson Ultimate connects to.
On a gooseneck hitch a pipe comes down and attaches to the ball that your Andersen hitch attaches. This would result in much more useable space in the bed. I know we could have put a gooseneck hitch on our Eagle 5th wheel fifteen years ago.

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On a gooseneck hitch a pipe comes down and attaches to the ball that your Andersen hitch attaches. This would result in much more useable space in the bed. I know we could have put a gooseneck hitch on our Eagle 5th wheel fifteen years ago.
I can't see how that would result in more cargo space using an Andersen Hitch. The hitch base takes up the same amount of room regardless of the coupler that attaches to it. A true gooseneck would have the connection point at or near the floor of the truck bed, but the Andersen is basically an alternative method of attachment without drastically changing the connection height. This is partly why I said it's kind of like a gooseneck.
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On a gooseneck hitch a pipe comes down and attaches to the ball that your Andersen hitch attaches. This would result in much more useable space in the bed. I know we could have put a gooseneck hitch on our Eagle 5th wheel fifteen years ago.
This style of hitching gear extends the structure of the trailer, causing stresses beyond those which result from using a hitch which pivots at the normal location (whether a fifth-wheel like stock, or a ball-and-socket such as the Andersen Ultimate). As I recall, Escape Trailer Industries endorses the use the Andersen, but not use of extended devices like this.
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I can't see how that would result in more cargo space using an Andersen Hitch. The hitch base takes up the same amount of room regardless of the coupler that attaches to it. A true gooseneck would have the connection point at or near the floor of the truck bed...
The extended tube to a coupler which was shown does couple directly to the ball at the bed, and so it would eliminate the base frame of the Andersen Ultimate, or of a conventional fifth-wheel.
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The extended tube to a coupler which was shown does couple directly to the ball at the bed, and so it would eliminate the base frame of the Andersen Ultimate, or of a conventional fifth-wheel.
Well yes. I was speaking directly to the idea that it would increase useable cargo space with an Andersen Hitch including the frame.

EDIT: Having said that, I wouldn't trust a standard gooseneck with the pipe as much as a 5th wheel hitch and kingpin, partly for the reason you mentioned.
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On a gooseneck hitch a pipe comes down and attaches to the ball that your Andersen hitch attaches. This would result in much more useable space in the bed. I know we could have put a gooseneck hitch on our Eagle 5th wheel fifteen years ago.

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I personally would never use one of those. The stresses created by the leverage put on that tall skinny column are cause for concern, and have been known to fail. Granted, our trailers are a lot lighter than most other fifth wheels, but still.....

There are goose box adapters, that replace the pin box, and extend down to the gooseneck ball that are way more solid, but are also quite pricey.

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Well yes. I was speaking directly to the idea that it would increase useable cargo space with an Andersen Hitch including the frame.
Okay, but that wasn't the proposed idea. Were you thinking that someone wanted to replace the fifth-wheel pin box with tube, having a coupler at the same height as the pin, used with an Andersen Ultimate frame and ball? I agree, that would be pointless.

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On a gooseneck hitch a pipe comes down and attaches to the ball that your Andersen hitch attaches.
Perry is referring to the ball in the truck bed which a "gooseneck mount" Andersen Ultimate uses as an anchor, not the Andersen's own ball.

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EDIT: Having said that, I wouldn't trust a standard gooseneck with the pipe as much as a 5th wheel hitch and kingpin, partly for the reason you mentioned.
My only safety or security concern would be with the trailer structure. These common ball hitch systems are routinely rated for 20,000 pound trailers (usually in agricultural and construction applications). Nothing sophisticated, but they're strong.
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