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Old 05-13-2017, 09:15 PM   #1
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I installed Sumo Springs on my Tundra today

I know several folks here have used these on Tacomas, so I wanted to try them on the Tundra. We wanted to prevent the rear squatting when we pick up our 5.0 TA in 11 days. I purchased the Ssr-610-47 which is rated to 1500 lbs. They are compatible with the B & W Turnover ball hitch mount. The top of the polymer spring just contacts the washer on the bolt on the bottom of the frame used on the B & W.
The install was easy, the worst part was breaking the u bolts free that attach the bump stops to the top of the spring and axle.
I'm pleased with the results. We hooked up to my brother's travel trailer with approximately 400 lbs tongue weight and the truck dropped ~ 1.5 inches. I also got some time behind the wheel towing the trailer and about an hour session in a vacant parking lot to dust off the backing skills. I know the 5'er will be different, but I wanted to prove to myself that I can still back up straight and also get used to the trailer tracking on sharp turns. So far, so good.
Can't wait to meet some of you in Osoyoos!
Chuck
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Old 05-14-2017, 01:17 AM   #2
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Your 5.0TA will look awesome behind such a beautiful truck!! Love the colour!
Have a safe trip!!
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Old 05-14-2017, 12:47 PM   #3
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I know several folks here have used these on Tacomas, so I wanted to try them on the Tundra. We wanted to prevent the rear squatting when we pick up our 5.0 TA in 11 days. I purchased the Ssr-610-47 which is rated to 1500 lbs. They are compatible with the B & W Turnover ball hitch mount. The top of the polymer spring just contacts the washer on the bolt on the bottom of the frame used on the B & W.
The install was easy, the worst part was breaking the u bolts free that attach the bump stops to the top of the spring and axle.
I'm pleased with the results. We hooked up to my brother's travel trailer with approximately 400 lbs tongue weight and the truck dropped ~ 1.5 inches. I also got some time behind the wheel towing the trailer and about an hour session in a vacant parking lot to dust off the backing skills. I know the 5'er will be different, but I wanted to prove to myself that I can still back up straight and also get used to the trailer tracking on sharp turns. So far, so good.
Can't wait to meet some of you in Osoyoos!
Chuck
Please let us know how it works once you get the 5.0 TA. I have a 2012 Tundra 4x4 double cab and it tows our 2015 TA just fine just stock, but I am giving thought to a bit of extra beef to the suspension.
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Old 05-14-2017, 05:29 PM   #4
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Good to know. I am debating between the Sumo Springs and the Timbren system for my 2010 F 150. I intend to install them at the same time I install the Reece rail system.
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Old 05-14-2017, 08:16 PM   #5
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Good to know. I am debating between the Sumo Springs and the Timbren system for my 2010 F 150. I intend to install them at the same time I install the Reece rail system.
The Timbren and Sumo springs look like a very similar device and perform the same function. There was a thread a while back on the forum about the Timbren system and got good reviews. I installed them on my 2012 Tundra. I've only towed my new 5.0TA about 1200 miles and it seems good. The truck sits level and the ride is not harsh. I think it was a worthwhile addition.
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Old 05-21-2017, 08:15 PM   #6
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I know several folks here have used these on Tacomas, so I wanted to try them on the Tundra. We wanted to prevent the rear squatting when we pick up our 5.0 TA in 11 days. I purchased the Ssr-610-47 which is rated to 1500 lbs. They are compatible with the B & W Turnover ball hitch mount. The top of the polymer spring just contacts the washer on the bolt on the bottom of the frame used on the B & W.
The install was easy, the worst part was breaking the u bolts free that attach the bump stops to the top of the spring and axle.
I'm pleased with the results. We hooked up to my brother's travel trailer with approximately 400 lbs tongue weight and the truck dropped ~ 1.5 inches. I also got some time behind the wheel towing the trailer and about an hour session in a vacant parking lot to dust off the backing skills. I know the 5'er will be different, but I wanted to prove to myself that I can still back up straight and also get used to the trailer tracking on sharp turns. So far, so good.
Can't wait to meet some of you in Osoyoos!
Chuck
do you have big sag with 400 lbs of tongue weight?
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Old 05-22-2017, 11:28 PM   #7
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do you have big sag with 400 lbs of tongue weight?
I did not measure sag before the install. I just wanted to firm up the back end for the 5.0 TA. An added benefit is that there is minimal lean on the curvy descents on highway 90 through Montana, Idaho and Washington.
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Old 05-27-2017, 08:08 PM   #8
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Supersprings

I've been looking at Supersprings for my Tundra. They are made by the same company as Sumosprings, but attach to the leaf spring to make it stiffer. I would be interested in anyone who has used Supersprings or has a comparison with Sumosprings.

I used the Timbre system on my 4Runner pulling our Casita. I liked that they prevented rear end squat and improved handling, but they did stiffen up the rear end to the point it would bounce when going over road humps. I took them off my 2014 4Runner when I sold it and have them for sale for $150 OBO if anyone is interested.
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Old 05-28-2017, 05:47 PM   #9
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I've been looking at Supersprings for my Tundra. They are made by the same company as Sumosprings, but attach to the leaf spring to make it stiffer. I would be interested in anyone who has used Supersprings or has a comparison with Sumosprings.

I used the Timbre system on my 4Runner pulling our Casita. I liked that they prevented rear end squat and improved handling, but they did stiffen up the rear end to the point it would bounce when going over road humps. I took them off my 2014 4Runner when I sold it and have them for sale for $150 OBO if anyone is interested.
I used SuperSprings on my 2007 Nissan Frontier 4X4 for towing my 2010 Casita. Then added SumoSprings to my 2015 GMC Sierra 4X4 when I traded the Frontier. Different trucks, different capabilities but both the SuperSprings and SumoSprings have worked great for me.
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Old 05-28-2017, 05:52 PM   #10
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BTW, Casita sold February 2017, the GMC, SumoSprings and I are presently enroute to Chilliwack to pick up our new Escape 21.
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