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Old 06-17-2014, 05:43 PM   #21
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Ron in BC when you say you use a tow/haul button what do you mean? I don't have that button on my Ranger.
Mine is one of the last ones made. I held off as long as I could, hoping against hope that the diesel Ranger would be coming to NA. So I don't know when they first starting putting the tow/haul button on them. Maybe when they started putting the 5 speed auto in.

I've had it on other Fords as well including V8 and V10s

If you Google "tow/haul mode" you'll find a pretty good explanation of how it works.

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Old 06-17-2014, 06:07 PM   #22
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It is a nice engine and when it roars, it roars. I normally only get about 14-15 around town.
Robert,
I tried to keep it at 60-65 or about 5 less than the limit and in those 80 mph states around 70, I guess slowing down to 100 kph or 62 would be better. Remember this was all on interstate highways and I did not turn the motor off until the end of the day. My tanks were fresh was 2/3 full and waste were both empty starting and 1/3 and 1/3 upon reaching Osoyoos. I did not dump en route. Going home I was 2/3 fresh and waste empty and upon reaching home 1/3 fresh and empty waste as I dumped at my last stop in Indiana.
Jim.. When towing I follow your countries 1974-87 coast to coast speed limit and still the California limit for trailers. The double nickel (90 kph) really saves fuel especially when your not very aerodynamic and have twice as many tires on the pavement. Canmore Alberta to Burlington On a couple weeks ago 16.4 miles per US gallon.
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Old 06-17-2014, 06:15 PM   #23
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I don't believe that adding aftermarket components in an attempt to increase horsepower will improve your mileage. Do you feel that you need more ponies with the Escape 21 which is heavier and has more frontal area ?
Tow with a vehicle that is capable for a safe and comfortable towing experience.
Keep the driving time and distances realistic to avoid fatigue and feeling sick.
Plan on driving at a moderate speed to have an enjoyable experience and increase fuel mileage.
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Old 06-17-2014, 06:58 PM   #24
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I would agree that adding aftermarket parts hurts mileage. On my last truck A gm with a 6.0 L engine I had a aftermarket air intake on it for a while and it was 1-2 miles per gallon that it hurt. The oiled filter also buggered up the mass air flow sensor.
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Old 06-17-2014, 07:23 PM   #25
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We are two months and 7,0000 miles into our trip and I am averaging 13.25 mpg total, with about 95% of that towing. I use tow haul, try to keep my fresh water topped up and usually have some waste in the tanks, but rarely full. I have not noticed any difference towing with or without full tanks in previous trips.

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Old 06-17-2014, 08:05 PM   #26
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Good to see others are in the same boat, so to speak….I too have toyed with the diesel option, particularly the new Ram 1500 diesel. But after joining the forum there I found some interesting issues. These clean diesels are clean because they inject urea into the exhaust. It costs like $50 every oil change to fill. For those not familiar with urea, it is what I clean out of my cat's little box every day. I'm throwing it away and others are buying it to burn in their diesel!! The oil change every 10k will run about $150 with the urea fill up. That said there is a $4-6K upgrade up charge for the diesel. I figure with 6-8,000 miles towing a year, it will take awhile to recoup your premium plus there is the premium at the gas pumps. You will save about a 30% of fuel with diesel over gas, you can do the math.
The Ram 1500 diesel I believe has the same engine and tranny as our 2014 Grand Cherokee Eco Diesel, we upgraded from a 2011 GC Hemi V8 (Horrible mileage for these days really)
So far non towing we get 26 city and 28 - 30 hwy. 650 miles out of one tank. Walmart sells DEF for $12, you need 2 every 10k.
The diesel adds $3k to the RAM 1500, worth every penny just for the fun factor, this new engine mates perfectly with the 8 speed transmission and the torque is amazing
We pick up our 19 in August and will post some numbers when we get back.
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:34 PM   #27
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RE: Alberta to Prince George to Chilliwack to Alberta. ... Just did the math, averaging 15.84 Imp gal = 19 US gal., towing a 19 with a GMC 4x4 crew cab, 5.3 V8 6 speed ---I think that is outstanding.

Doug you just made me very happy. Now I'm going to go out and buy my new truck a Tonneau cover because I have been told it will reduce gas consumption.
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:59 PM   #28
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RE: Alberta to Prince George to Chilliwack to Alberta. ... Just did the math, averaging 15.84 Imp gal = 19 US gal., towing a 19 with a GMC 4x4 crew cab, 5.3 V8 6 speed ---I think that is outstanding.

Doug you just made me very happy. Now I'm going to go out and buy my new truck a Tonneau cover because I have been told it will reduce gas consumption.
Myron remember the following:

Southern Alberta to Prince George via Hwy 22 and Hwy 16 speed 40 - 60 mph taking it easy.

Prince George to Chilliwack max. 60 mph (not very often) and is down hill.

Chilliwack back to Southern Alberta 50 - 60 mph (slow by Albertan standards)

Used tow haul mode most of the time except going down hill just kind of kicked off the cruise and let her run might have hit 70 mph going down the odd hill but slowed quick once things flattened out.

I have made trips cruising at 70 mph and lost a couple of mpg....

Also I don't think my Tonneau cover makes any diffence as I have made trips with and without it.


By the way the Sierra is supposed to get 20 mpg city and 30 mpg highway but it doesn't, here is a website for truck fuel economy.
http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/publications/...cks.cfm?attr=8

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Old 06-17-2014, 10:49 PM   #29
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I installed a cold air intake as well as throttle body spacer for some extra hp increase to 420 vs stock 390hp.
I'm sure that's what the aftermarket parts manufacturer says; I'm not so sure it's true. Also...
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I would agree that adding aftermarket parts hurts mileage. On my last truck A gm with a 6.0 L engine I had a aftermarket air intake on it for a while and it was 1-2 miles per gallon that it hurt. The oiled filter also buggered up the mass air flow sensor.
Lots of development work goes into vehicles - many millions of dollars worth. If aftermarket parts add peak power capability, they usually cost in some other way... if they didn't, the vehicle manufacturer would have done the same thing.
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Old 06-17-2014, 10:50 PM   #30
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The gmc canyon diesel is reported to have a tow capacity in the 7000 lb range, and be able to average well into the 30 miles per gallon ( not towing ). will be interesting to see if this becomes a suitable tow vehicle for some
Yes, but the diesel Colorado/Canyon is a planned 2016 model year vehicle, so we'll be waiting for a while to find out!
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