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Old 06-17-2014, 10:51 PM   #31
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The Ram 1500 diesel I believe has the same engine and tranny as our 2014 Grand Cherokee Eco Diesel...
Yes, it's the same VM Motori 3.0L engine, and presumably the same transmission.
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Old 06-17-2014, 10:56 PM   #32
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Any opinions on what effect using cruise control has on towing?
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Old 06-17-2014, 10:57 PM   #33
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Geez Doug, I know you said Prince George but I got my Princes mixed up and thought you meant Prince Edward. (We passed by the island one year on our way to Nova Scotia.) No wonder I got excited. Big difference.

I done 60 mph in a 75 mph zone many times. Still want the Tonneau.
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Old 06-17-2014, 11:04 PM   #34
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Any opinions on what effect using cruise control has on towing?
If it keeps you from wildly varying in speed on level terrain it could help. More likely, by using high power and triggering downshifts in an attempt to maintain speed up grades, it will hurt... assuming that you have an automatic transmission.
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Old 06-17-2014, 11:11 PM   #35
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My recollection from my RAV4 manual and from posts on forums is don't use cruise control. Not sure why though, unless its because it puts your brain into cruise.
I'm not comfortable using it even when I'm not towing. I guess if I was driving across Saskatchewan with no other traffic it would be useful, but I find I'm constantly having to override it because the traffic isn't moving at a constant speed.
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Old 06-18-2014, 05:57 AM   #36
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I find using cruise will activate down shifts a lot quicker than with non cruise and just your foot. There is a rpm range using your foot that allows some increase before the transmission down shifts, seems this range is lost while in the cruise mode. This chart is interesting, it appears that
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weight of the heavier 4x4 models always decrease the efficiency, Thus weight and speed are the critical issues.
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Old 06-18-2014, 06:30 AM   #37
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Cruise Control: I've done a lot of traveling with and without it on my conventional trailer. I use it on long flats so my speed does not vary and I don't have to worry about the man, I tend to speed up over long periods when using my foot.
I much prefer doing the shifting myself in the hills, it's usually the first time the CC downshifts that I knock it out. I'd rather let some speed bleed off before downshifting. Many times I can pretty much roll up a hill without any need to downshift or give it any extra gas. Pretty much what Jim is saying. I have noticed by watching the instant mpg display, I do better, mpg wise, then cruise does in the hills.
While I've never gone out to specifically compare mpg using CC vs your foot, I've never noticed any difference. The only circumstances that changed mpg consistently were headwind and speed. Usually the difference in cost at slow speeds (55) and higher speed (70) doesn't add up enough to sway me one way or the other. I just drive at what ever a comfortable speed is.
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Old 06-18-2014, 07:51 AM   #38
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I do pretty much like Bob, with cruise on when the driving is easy, and off in hills. The only difference, I downshift earlier than the transmission normally would going up steeper hills, to keep my revs up and have more power, with the engine performing better.

I do find with my Pilot towing, that keeping the speed down makes a big difference in fuel economy, and once over 110 kph on the flats, it starts to suffer. But, time is money, and being a working stiff, I usually press the speed a bit to save time.
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Old 06-18-2014, 08:22 AM   #39
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Hi: All... I have no stats to show numbers yet...but here are some observations from our return trip. The 5.0TA has performed well. In the steep mountain passes I used 3rd. gear to ascend as well as descend. In a few cases I used the extra squeeze on the brake controller to slow the rig better and use the new brakes on the trailer more.
In the strong 50mph + headwinds, maintaining 62-65 mph has taken a toll on the gas mileage. The gas prices aren't cheap enough to do the 75 mph speed limits in Montana & North Dakota. I am towing exclusively in 4th. with the OD locked out. The only shifting is when the torque converter spins out on the uphills, or passing gear is engaged. I am maintaining 2200-2500 rpm's with 2800-3000 on the hills. NO cruise control when towing!!! Pic. from the Crowsnest pass summit I think? That white lake is ice!!! No place for short pants either.
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BBrrr, that looks cold. We are in a heat wave back east.
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