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Old 06-18-2014, 09:56 AM   #41
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Jim, interesting chart you linked to. Hope all realize that the mpg figures are for imperial gallons. The chart is worth only to compare mileage of one truck to another, it's certainly not real world mileage. For example our NC (moving to KS) son-in-law's F150 ecoboost at just over 20,000 miles was at 16.9 (14 l/100km) on the computer with mixed highway/city driving. The chart says for his model 14 l/100 km city and 9.6 highway.

We have had only one trip in our 5.0 through mixed flatland and northern ON Cdn. shield driving and our average dropped from the best I'd had with truck alone from 12l/100km (19.6 mpg) to 14l/100km (16.8 mpg) that is until after the last fill up when we got only 17 (13.8 mpg) into a headwind!

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Old 06-18-2014, 11:17 AM   #42
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Like others I will use the cruise on flat easy ground to maintain a constant speed but when apoaching a hill I kick it out as it causes a down shift long before its needed. I find that with a slight stab of the throttlle I can unlock the torque converter and increase rpm by about 200-300 rpm and roll up most hills with needing to down shift into 2nd gear. Of course on the really steep stuff that doesn't work. By the way Brian we were told that we might be getting some diesel Canyons in early spring ( 2015) but yes they will technically 2016's , much like we go the 2015 3/4 ton and 1 tons this year. The gas Canyons should be here in August of this year.
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Old 06-18-2014, 06:36 PM   #43
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By the way Brian we were told that we might be getting some diesel Canyons in early spring ( 2015) but yes they will technically 2016's...
Thanks for the update.
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Old 06-18-2014, 06:40 PM   #44
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Back to the original question...
12 miles per US gallon is about 19 litres per 100 kilometres. That's perhaps 20% more fuel than we have used towing our trailer, which is about as wide as an Escape 21; however,
  • my trailer is half a ton lighter,
  • my trailer is single-axle (versus tandem),
  • my van is somewhat lighter and better shaped aerodynamically, and
  • my van's tires are narrower.
All of these factors will improve my fuel consumption, so Jim's 12 MPG doesn't look unreasonable to me.
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:22 AM   #45
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I installed a cold air intake as well as throttle body spacer for some extra hp increase to 420 vs stock 390hp.
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.....of course for some of us, poorer mileage and long hill climbs are just pipe dreams. I'd love to compare the mileage between my stock 390 and your 420 but we're still waiting for our asphalt anchor

When I was kid my Dad had a 1970 3/4 ton Fargo with a 318 ci. I can't remember the exact mileage but I do remember his surprise that it achieved similar mileage with or without the full size camper. Weight (it was a heavy homebuilt) and frontal area had little impact.

BTW tire size can impact mileage significantly if you increase to a larger than stock diameter.
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:29 AM   #46
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Sorry Jim...12 mpg while towing would not be acceptable to me in the long haul. That's about average mpg of a much larger/heavier 24' Class C.
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Old 06-19-2014, 01:00 AM   #47
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BTW tire size can impact mileage significantly if you increase to a larger than stock diameter.
I decided to leave my winter tires on and wear them out before replacing them with all-weather tires. My summer tires (all-season) were on their last leg and I only have one set of rims.
Thus, my question; could that be why I seem to be getting poorer gas mileage lately?
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It'll be interesting to see Alf's figures once he gets them worked out. One would expect going from the SA to the TA mpg will drop, same as going from a 19 to a 21.

Jim, did you ever pull your 19 with the Dodge? do you recall what you got for mpg?
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It'll be interesting to see Alf's figures once he gets them worked out. One would expect going from the SA to the TA mpg will drop, same as going from a 19 to a 21.

Jim, did you ever pull your 19 with the Dodge? do you recall what you got for mpg?
About 13 mpg with the 19' Escape, but that was not cross country, just here on Yeast coast.
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I decided to leave my winter tires on and wear them out before replacing them with all-weather tires. My summer tires (all-season) were on their last leg and I only have one set of rims.
Thus, my question; could that be why I seem to be getting poorer gas mileage lately?
The more aggressive tread and softer rubber of winter tires could cause a small increase in fuel consumption. Width is more of an issue, but winter tires are not normally sider than the same car's summers.

Increased diameter doesn't cause higher fuel consumption, but it can seem like there is a reduction because your odometer reading is low: you underestmate how far you are going on a quantity of fuel.
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