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Old 06-22-2016, 10:59 AM   #41
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Is the KIA OEM hitch receiver adequate for a Weight Distribution Hitch?
The OEM hitch receiver for my RAV4 was not, so I had a Hidden Hitch installed.
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Is the KIA OEM hitch receiver adequate for a Weight Distribution Hitch?
The OEM hitch receiver for my RAV4 was not, so I had a Hidden Hitch installed.

From what I've been able to read, it looks like the "factory" trailer hitch option on the Sorento is actually not installed by the factory, but is a "port installed" option - i.e., the dealer installs it. And, it looks like most of them install a hidden hitch brand.


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Question is still, "is this hitch receiver rated for a WDH?"
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Old 06-22-2016, 04:23 PM   #44
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From what I've been able to read, it looks like the "factory" trailer hitch option on the Sorento is actually not installed by the factory, but is a "port installed" option - i.e., the dealer installs it. And, it looks like most of them install a hidden hitch brand.
That's normal: unless the hitch receiver is integrated with the bumper structure - and this one is not - it is a dealer-installed or "port installed" (done by a distributor between the manufacturer and dealer) accessory. My Sienna hitch is dealer-installed, but it is a genuine Toyota accessory.

Of course someone has to make the receiver, and that is very often one of the aftermarket hitch companies. My Sienna's receiver is a Reese (one of the Cequent brands; Hidden Hitch is another Cequent brand), but was never available except from Toyota.

I usually use eTrailer to survey the available hitches for a vehicle because they carry both Curt and all of the Cequent brands; in the case of the 2016 Sorrento the only Cequent hitch shown is the Draw-Tite, and it does not look like the Kia design. The Hidden Hitch 87665 is for the Sorrento, and also looks just like the Curt and Draw-Tite. The Hidden Hitch installation instructions confirm that exactly the same product is sold under three names and part numbers:
  • Draw-Tite 75908
  • Hidden Hitch 87665
  • Reese 44750
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Old 06-22-2016, 04:32 PM   #45
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Is the KIA OEM hitch receiver adequate for a Weight Distribution Hitch?
The OEM hitch receiver for my RAV4 was not, so I had a Hidden Hitch installed.
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Question is still, "is this hitch receiver rated for a WDH?"
The installation instructions for the Cequent (Hidden Hitch, Draw-Tite, Reese) aftermarket hitch receiver indicate that it is not rated for weight-distribution use. The standard table of rated capacity is included, but the weight-distributing row shows "NA" instead of weights.

It may be that Cequent (Hidden Hitch, Draw-Tite, Reese...) does not provide a weight-distributing rating because they know that Kia does not endorse the use of a weight-distributing hitch - the Sorrento owner's manual does not mention WD one way or the other - but that is only speculation.
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Old 06-22-2016, 04:39 PM   #46
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Just to go with the info above, we paid $45 to an RV shop to install our Prodigy.
Is the 4Runner pre-wired by Toyota for a brake controller? It looks like it just needs a plug-in adapter for connection of the controller, with no wiring work to do at all. That means for $45 they plugged in a cable and installed the mounting bracket... a lot more work will be needed on the Sorrento.
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It might be worth trying to see if the dealer will work with you on a total installed price - with you buying the Technosha and bringing it to them as part of the install. Our Highlander came with only the flat 4 pin wiring. I found talking directly with the service manager got me the best install price for all the wiring and controller installed. I also stipulated #10 wire for the power/charge wire. He said that that was standard on Toyota factory installs also.

Side note, when I was dealing with the guy who valued trade-ins, he highly recommended having the dealer do the wiring. Granted he works at the dealership, but he said he had seen a lot of corroded and broken trailer wiring that had just been run where ever it was easiest under the vehicle. The dealer ran all the wiring inside the Highlander and made sure all connections were inside also.
Around here, the dealers send this sort of work out to hitch shops. Dealerships are great for following officially endorsed procedures, using genuine OEM parts, and being familiar with the vehicle. On the other hand, they may not be good with custom work.

Certainly the quality of work can be a challenge with anything custom; you need to be very specific with your request, or be able to trust the installer to do it appropriately. If you have a dealer you really trust then I can see going with them.
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Old 06-23-2016, 02:34 AM   #48
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So the saga continues...

I cancelled the appointment today with the place that wanted me to buy the super cheap brake controller.

I called the dealership today. The person that answered in the service department said, "I'm just training. I really don't know anything." OK. The second lady had worked for an RV place and actually had a clue. This is what I found out:

All they will install is the hitch. No wiring whatsoever (even though they sell a wiring harness as an accessory). Absolutely no way they'd install a brake controller. So, that means the $640 I was quoted to install the Kia hitch meant the install was about $300! I assumed that included the wiring. No.

She was able to run the VIN for me and I found out that I DO have the tow package, including the larger tranny cooler. Made me very happy!! I asked if that meant that the wiring was done to the back of the vehicle and she said that they don't do that on these vehicles. She said when the wiring and controller is done on these, no wire is run at all - it's all done "with modules". Sounded like it was all remote, or radio frequency, or something? I was a little confused. Does that mean that the wireless controller that Dave mentioned would be my only/best option??

She did recommend 2 hitch places to me, one of which I spoke with briefly previously. I guess my next step is to call them and try to get some more info.

Summer may be over before I'm able to tow!!

Thanks again for the input!
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I think your next step is to consider another dealer selling another brand.
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Old 06-23-2016, 09:03 AM   #50
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Brenda, I am feeling your pain-how frustrating

Thought about Glenn's comment above and another thought is call a local firm selling horse & utility trailers. Found this 1/2 hour from you- About Bert Duncan Trailer Sales They look full-service and do RV's too.
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