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Old 03-15-2015, 01:45 PM   #201
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That sticker is for an amazing truck!! Exterior color, interior color and all included. WOW!!! I don't understand why Ford's web page won't let people build it. But there is still the dealer. Thank you for sharing!!
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Old 03-15-2015, 01:56 PM   #202
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Old 03-15-2015, 02:15 PM   #203
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Have a great trip. Hope the trailer exceeds your expectations!
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Old 03-15-2015, 03:30 PM   #204
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I don't understand why Ford's web page won't let people build it.
I see what you mean: if I pick a SuperCrew and 6.5' box the default engine is the EcoBoost 2.7, but as soon as I change the default 4x2 to 4x4 a change of engine to the 5.0 is enforced. I thought it might be the trim level, but the same thing happens at every level I checked (XL, XLT, Lariat).

Then I realized the problem: I was picking the 6.5' box. The truck shown in that window sticker has a wheelbase of 145", which implies a 5.5' box length for a SuperCrew (full 4-door cab). I tried with the 5.5' box and had no problem getting the same truck (right down to the colour and accessories) shown on the sticker.

By the way, that might be a nice truck, but it isn't suited for towing like Robert's: it has the towing package, but is missing the payload package and integrated trailer brake controller. I suppose the buyer wasn't planning to tow much, or the dealership ordered it to have all the cool features and not run the cost up with working bits underneath.
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Old 03-15-2015, 10:33 PM   #205
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We have the 6250 payload package but we had to add the integrated brake controller. Apparently it's only included in the max tow package bundle. I hate the way the manufacturers do options. Would be better if it was just a list of options. I know why they do it - to bundle common configurations and save build time, but it does make it hard to configure online. A dealer can come in handy because they can select individual options without a package.

We're in Roswell NM tonight. The weather is just beautiful and the truck is more than I expected. We averaged 24.7 mpg between San Antonio and here and the mileage is actually still ticking up.
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Old 03-15-2015, 11:09 PM   #206
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We have the 6250 payload package but we had to add the integrated brake controller. Apparently it's only included in the max tow package bundle
That's the lower of the two payload packages for the 145" SuperCrew (6250 lb GVWR 4x2 / 6500 lb GVWR 4x4; 1640 lb payload). The "2.7L EcoBoostŪ V6 Payload Package" increases GVWR by 400 lb and payload by 420 lb (apparently the higher-capacity hardware weighs 80 pounds more); I didn't realize that you don't have that, but it shouldn't be needed for an Escape 21' (but I would get it for a 5.0TA).
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Old 03-15-2015, 11:55 PM   #207
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And even less needed for a 19 (ours).

There was a method to my madness. Weight and payload were not really a concern with the 19, but fuel economy definitely was.
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Old 03-16-2015, 11:44 AM   #208
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Just noticed this going back to the beginning of this thread:
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The long wheel base/ long bed ones are basically impossible to find around here unless you go with the V8.
As it turns out, they are literally impossible to find because Ford doesn't offer that combination - select the SuperCrew with 6.5' box and the V8 is selected for you.
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Old 03-16-2015, 12:06 PM   #209
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I didn't realize that you don't have that, but it shouldn't be needed for an Escape 21'...
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And even less needed for a 19 (ours).
Can I claim that I meant "for an Escape up to the 21'"? No, I just forgot the size of Robert's Escape.

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There was a method to my madness. Weight and payload were not really a concern with the 19, but fuel economy definitely was.
Good point - the high payload packages usually mean more truck weight, and more significantly to fuel economy they also typically have lower gearing, which hurts fuel economy when not heavily loaded. In this case, I think the F-150 with 2.7L EcoBoost and 2WD goes from 3.31:1 to 3.73:1 with the maximum payload package.
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Old 03-16-2015, 12:11 PM   #210
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There is no mechanical reason preventing the 2.7L from being installed in a 4X4 truck. Plenty of power. The only difference is that the mpg suffers a bit due to the extra weight and the transfer case.
... and the 3.55:1 final drive ratio.

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The dealer got an 3.55 ratio axle with his 4wd. Roberts has 3.31, at least the original sticker showed that. I wonder how much that counts in the mpg.
3.55 is base equipment for the 4x4, while the 4x2 gets 3.31. Both change to 3.73:1 with the maximum payload package.
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