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Old 02-18-2015, 11:18 AM   #81
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I think the biggest difference is fuel mileage has less to do with the type of fuel as much as how hard someone is pushing on the accelerator peddle! I get the best fuel mileage in my 2014 Ford F-150 w/ecoboost at 1500 rpm.... no matter the speed or towing/non-towing conditions.
I have found this to be true with my RAM. If I go easy on the peddle, the gas mileage goes up, towing or not. I always buy the less expensive fuel...
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Old 02-18-2015, 12:33 PM   #82
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... Worse yet, the US taxpayer pays a hefty price subsidizing the growers who raise corn for ethanol. ....
And artificially jacks up the price of tortillas here in So. Calif.
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Old 02-18-2015, 01:39 PM   #83
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The price premium for "premium" fuel is usually paid to get more octane, but one of the side effects is that in many cases it does not have alcohol, while the "regular" gas does. Here in Alberta, all regular gas has ethanol, but some premium does not. I certainly would not pay for premium in a tow vehicle, but for a lawn mower that has seals which would be damaged by alcohol the premium gas would make sense. My small engines all get gasoline with 10% ethanol - no issues yet.

Some F-150 engines are "flex fuel" capable, and are fine with ethanol all the way up to E85 (85% ethanol); however, the EcoBoost engines are not. This is a non-issue here, since I don't think you can even buy over 10% ethanol fuel even if you wanted it, but I understand it is something to watch for in some other areas.

The F-150 manual's section on fuel is quite clear - and contains some very specific and extensive requirements. On a cross-continent trip I don't know that I would successfully check for compliance of all the fuel I might buy, and I'm sure that this situation is far from unique to the F-150 or to Ford.

I find the pure-gas.org site a little strange, because it is not about pure gasoline at all: according to its own about page, it is entirely about ethanol in gasoline. Methanol is also used in gasoline, and is more problematic than ethanol. The F-150 manual also refers to other unacceptable additives, and this site does not address them at all. You could easily get fuel which is not acceptable to your vehicle but which is legitimately listed as "pure gas". If your only concern is ethanol, this looks like a great resource. Maybe they should just call it "ethanol-free".org?
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Remember, this site has one, simple purpose: to list the stations that sell ethanol-free gasoline in the U.S. and Canada
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Old 02-18-2015, 02:18 PM   #84
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Thanks Leonard. I was thinking awhile back along the lines of "dang, we're gonna be spoiled", but then I remembered two important things: One, we camped for years in tents, with the Ants, Mosquitos, the heat and the lack of privacy and convenience (by the way, we had a ball), and TWO: this is the last RV we want to buy. Considering the McMansions and the conspicuous display of wealth and ostentation in alot of "campgrounds", maybe our choices were modest after all.
Like reading our story, exactly the same history and reasons to buy out Escape 5.0 classic and TV.
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Old 02-28-2015, 02:11 PM   #85
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This might be a good indicator of how well this truck will tow. They used a 7,200 lb trailer up the I70 to the Eisenhower Tunnel. This will definitely be my next tow vehicle.
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Old 02-28-2015, 02:27 PM   #86
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This might be a good indicator of how well this truck will tow. They used a 7,200 lb trailer up the I70 to the Eisenhower Tunnel. This will definitely be my next tow vehicle.
There are many videos and articles about the performance of the 2.7L Ecoboost when towing. That was a major reason we chose it. The other reason is the great fuel economy when NOT towing. I can live with 28-29 MPG.
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Old 02-28-2015, 02:49 PM   #87
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But it is a FORD :} Did you know 90% of Fords made are still on the road today?? .... Yeah it is true the rest made it home :} LOL Sorry I had to lol




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Old 02-28-2015, 04:06 PM   #88
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Lol, keep talking Cypher. I'll wave as we pass you while you're pumping gas.
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Here's a snip of the windows sticker. Ford is mighty proud of them I guess.
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I could buy two Tacoma's for that price OUCH!!


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Old 02-28-2015, 09:04 PM   #91
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Yeah, I didn't pay that, but you're right. Ouch.
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Old 02-28-2015, 09:13 PM   #92
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Yeah, I didn't pay that, but you're right. Ouch.
Nice ...I've got the same truck, minus the sun roof, saved on Ford's build & price website .
Then I started thinking I wouldn't stay off the boost and started leaning toward an 8 and Chevy.
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Old 03-01-2015, 05:05 AM   #93
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Nice set up, do you know if the hill assist can be deactivated? I had some issues trying to back into a hilly campsite with this feature on my Nissan.
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Old 03-01-2015, 06:02 AM   #94
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Nice set up, do you know if the hill assist can be deactivated? I had some issues trying to back into a hilly campsite with this feature on my Nissan.
You can turn it off on the Chevy. Don't know on the Ford. What was the issue on the Nissan? Never noticed a problem on the Chevy. Backed into several hilly spots on the way back from Chilliwack.
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Old 03-01-2015, 09:41 AM   #95
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Nice set up, do you know if the hill assist can be deactivated? I had some issues trying to back into a hilly campsite with this feature on my Nissan.
Yes, you can turn it off if you like.
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Old 03-01-2015, 09:59 AM   #96
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With the Nissan I could not turn it off and when it activated it also activated my trailer brakes, I had to un-connected in the scenario. The Nissan was a stick.
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Old 03-05-2015, 09:42 AM   #97
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Someone threw a monkey wrench into my best laid plans.

Apparently our truck hasn't yet left the KC plant. They recently retooled that plant specifically for the 2015 because it requires a different manufacturing process. The truck has been finished since early February. So why hasn't it shipped? They have some internal requirement that there are at least 5 consecutive days where their QC checks show a score at or near 100%. Until that happens, they don't ship. This is an overall plant score, not an individual truck score.

The dealer ordered a truck for himself when he ordered mine (long before I went to the dealer). He offered to sell me his instead. Although both trucks had the same build date, his came from the Dearborn plant and is already on its way to the dealer, arriving on the 7th. Mine will take 10 days to reach the dealer once it leaves the factory. They ship by train.

It sounds like a viable alternative, but there are two things I'm trying to talk myself into: first, his is a 4x4. I really didn't want or need a 4x4, and the mileage takes a hit of 3mpg. Second, the color on his is "bronze fire". Don't know why, but that color doesn't strike my fancy.

So, I'm gonna sit here and keep trying to talk myself into it some more. The good news is that although his truck was higher priced, he's going to take more off so the price is closer to the one I had originally picked, mainly because he feels bad about promising it on the 7th. Of course, he had no control over the factory holds, but it was a nice gesture. Maybe with the discount its a better deal since its "more truck".

Bummed.
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All good things come to those who wait....or have patience, in this case. Cool it. Stick with your original decision/choice. Your baby will be here soon enough.
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I like the colour myself. What was the colour you originally chose?

As for 4x4, I can see not getting it if you don't need it. Up here it is something that gets used a lot, but down there, you would not have snow to deal with.

Is he offering it to you at no upcharge?

Maybe the dealer will lend you a loaner to go pick up your trailer.
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Wow - that's a ton of money (to me) to not get exactly what you want...
Doesn't you dealer have a demo (like his truck) that would work to pick up your new Escape while you wait for the one you want?
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