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Old 07-08-2013, 05:38 PM   #11
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It's a toss-up as to whether a Sherline is worth it. We are about to use ours again but have to go to a truck scale to get the loaded weight since tongue weight alone is worthless.
We can get the loaded and tongue weights at a truck scale as well as the weights with and without the WDH to see what weight is being transferred.

We have never had a tongue weight on our 19' less than 400 lbs.
So can you post some of your truck scale numbers you have received in the past?
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Old 07-08-2013, 05:39 PM   #12
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Once you get a good idea of what your total weight is, it will not change much unless you carry different things. For us, with the exception of how full the tanks are, I would bet every trip varies no more that 100 lbs with gear. The scale will help you monitor the loading, but then if you find what works good, and keep loading it the same way, not that great of a need to check anything at all.

That said, I really do need to check these weights, I have not done it in 4 years, since I got the trailer.
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Old 07-08-2013, 05:41 PM   #13
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Too bad a Sherline scale can't be rented.
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Old 07-08-2013, 05:44 PM   #14
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I always carry mine and let others use it when asked at cg or rallies!!
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Old 07-08-2013, 06:32 PM   #15
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Yes, a truck scale can be used to determine tongue weight; however,
  1. one method is to measure the tongue directly, but that requires unhitching and re-hitching directly on the scale, which would not be acceptable in many cases
  2. the other method is to compare tow vehicle axle loads with and without the trailer, not using a WD system - this doubles or worse (depending on how many axles fit on the scale together) the scale error, as well as introducing error due to the wrong hitch height for those using WD

Although consistent loading would eliminate the need for checks at loading time, some of us are not consistent enough to count on that. I would rather find out about a tongue weight issue at home while still loading rather than on the road at a scale (or not at all).

The only problem that I see with renting a Sherline scale is that it isn't expensive enough to bother. Having said that, I didn't buy one... my tongue weight is within bathroom scale range, and I also assembled something approximately equivalent to the Sherline from cheap locally available parts.
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Old 07-08-2013, 06:59 PM   #16
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I ordered a Sherline Trailer Tongue Weight Scales LM-1000 - 1000lb Scale at $146 bucks yes it is pricey that said so is my insurance deductible and costs associated with an accident with the possibility of being at fault. I figure it is small enough to fit anywhere can set it up and check before leaving for a trip and coming back from a trip. Just my 2 cents.

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Old 07-08-2013, 07:08 PM   #17
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I wouldn't say that tongue weight alone is useless, since it's not too hard to make a reasonable estimate about total weight -- particularly if you've taken your trailer to a scale before. The tongue weight scale lets you see the impact of filling your water tanks, shifting load around, etc.
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:09 PM   #18
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Bought one this morning. Shipped from NY to Ca. plus Ca tax total was $129.26. Sherline products
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:15 PM   #19
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I always carry mine and let others use it when asked at cg or rallies!!
Any chance you're swinging by the Pacific North West in the next 24 hours?
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I think our last loaded weight was 3520, almost exactly the same as the previous time. (Note that our weight is light compared to what most people are reporting for their 19's since others have had 3800 and up to 4000 and maybe even over the max.)

Our WDH has transferred 100 pounds back to the trailer and 180 up to the TV front axles. Had almost exactly the same on that before.

Our Sherline weights differ by 20-40 lbs. From the truck scales.

We never travel with a full water tank but also do not travel with full propane tanks so some people might use those to balance each other. We put a load of books, RV directory and the like, on the floor up front to help out the tongue weight a little. We don't want weight in the electrical bench.
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