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Old 09-30-2017, 06:30 PM   #1
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New 17B tongue weight...??

I picked up my new 17B earlier this month and drove down from Chilliwack to Petaluma (just north of San Francisco). Trailer towed like a dream - loved the trip back getting acquainted with it. It's a wonderful, high quality little trailer! I added a lot of bells and whistles to the base trailer - the weight listed on the export papers is 2900lbs - specs list the "unadored" weight at 2400lbs - ~ dry hitch weight of 250lbs.

I am using a weigh safe trailer hitch ( https://www.weigh-safe.com/ ) and the scale showed the tongue weight around 460-480 lbs... Figured the scale must have been defective as very little was loaded in the trailer on my drive back - at 2900lbs weight I figured the tongue weight would come in around 300lbs since little was added and what was, was behind the axle on the return trip.

I just used my brother's tongue weight scale and it comes in around 460lbs!

Where is this extra weight coming from? I have about 50-60 lbs of gear in the storage box and the black water tank (forward of axle) was empty. Couple blankets and pillows in the small front dinette storage benches...

I'm interested in hearing others experiences here. I tow with a 2014 Highlander XLE rated at 500lbs tongue weight and did not think tongue weight was going to be an issue. I have read so many folks towing with highlanders.

Any thoughts greatly appreciated!!
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Old 09-30-2017, 06:52 PM   #2
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Congrats on the new Escape!
Have you loaded up the trailer yet with cooking items and dishes, tools, clothes, whatever? If not, there is not much sense in worrying about the tongue weight until you see what it is when loaded with everything you intend to use. That may change things and you can adjust from there.
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That does seem high. My 2011 17B with more stuff in the front & full propane tanks ran between 325 - 345 lbs tongue weight with a trailer weight of 3010 - 3100 lbs. Not sure what they changed, but that is quite a jump.
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I agree... I am puzzled...? I expected the TW to come in around 350-375 loaded up. To be continued...
I'm curious if the axle was moved back in the new models?
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I agree... I am puzzled...? I expected the TW to come in around 350-375 loaded up. To be continued...
I'm curious if the axle was moved back in the new models?
No reason to do that and that would require a new mold. (on edit, I guess it is a new mold, but no reason to move the wheel wells ).
Mine is years old now. Runs 320-340 on the tongue and about 3,200 trailer. I don't have a front storage box and do have one on the rear with not much weight in it. I tend to load my beer cases up front, under the dinette to maintain 320 tongue weight.
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Would having the high lift axle affect tongue weight?
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Would having the high lift axle affect tongue weight?
Don't think so. Wheels are still the pivot and are in the same place. I have high lift axle, BTW.
And, I tow with a RAV4 which has 350 lb. tongue max.
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My recollection from previous threads is that that hitch scale you have isn't accurate, particularly at low weights.
It's also possible that your brother's scale is not working properly. If it is a Sherline, it's supposed to be stored upright and it's not supposed to be lifted or carried by the top. Otherwise, I have no idea how your tongue could be that heavy.
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Could it be that my hitch ball is too low? I was told at the factory to measure from the belly band back and front and the front should be 1" - 1.5" higher that the rear. My measure shows the front ~ 1" higher than the rear when hitched.
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Think I need to take it to a public scale to get the right measure
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