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Old 11-09-2018, 03:06 PM   #1
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New 5.0 with high lift axle or not

Just talked with Melisa at Escape and I was told that if my pickup bed is under 56" I don't need the high life axle option and if it's over 56" I do need the option. Well I just measure my new 2019 Ram 4x4 an it measures exactly 56" to the top of the bed where I was told to measure it to. Now let me add this, I won't be going Boondocking other then maybe a Walmart parking lot, but I will purchase the option it it just works out better all the way around for both pulling and better all around use in general. As we all know the bed will set down somewhat when the trailer is loader, don't know if this inters into play or not. What is the correct way to go on this.

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Old 11-09-2018, 03:15 PM   #2
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My box rails are 56" high, I never got the lift axle, I do a fair bit of boondocking, and have never had an issue.

BTW, stopping at Walmart most definitely is not boondocking. At least to date I have never seen the Walmart out in The Boondocks.
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:17 PM   #3
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They assume your truck bed will settle 2" when you hitch up. The frame rails of the bunkhouse are 60" off the ground, so if your 56" bed rails settle to 54" that will allow 6" of clearance, which is generally considered enough.

I went through the same deliberations recently with our 2019 Ram, and because we have a significant hump at the top of our downward sloping driveway need all the clearance we can get so I went with the high lift axle. If you search the forum you'll find numerous threads discussing the pros and cons. The biggest advantage is more clearance between the truck bed rails and trailer on uneven terrain. One downside is that your front door will be 2-1/2" higher off the ground and some people find that first step a bit awkward. There's probably not a significant difference in how the trailer will tow, but if you anticipate most of your travel being on even paved roads then you probably don't need the high lift axle. In other threads it seems that the majority of people did not get it, and of those who did some felt it didn't really make a difference. On unpaved uneven bumpy roads it would be a plus.
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56” truck, standard height trailer. Tows and rides great.
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Old 11-09-2018, 08:12 PM   #5
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They assume your truck bed will settle 2" when you hitch up. The frame rails of the bunkhouse are 60" off the ground, so if your 56" bed rails settle to 54" that will allow 6" of clearance, which is generally considered enough.

I went through the same deliberations recently with our 2019 Ram, and because we have a significant hump at the top of our downward sloping driveway need all the clearance we can get so I went with the high lift axle. If you search the forum you'll find numerous threads discussing the pros and cons. The biggest advantage is more clearance between the truck bed rails and trailer on uneven terrain. One downside is that your front door will be 2-1/2" higher off the ground and some people find that first step a bit awkward. There's probably not a significant difference in how the trailer will tow, but if you anticipate most of your travel being on even paved roads then you probably don't need the high lift axle. In other threads it seems that the majority of people did not get it, and of those who did some felt it didn't really make a difference. On unpaved uneven bumpy roads it would be a plus.
Your tow vehicle is pretty much like mine, I think I'd rather have the high lift axle. Which hitch have you decided on and will you have it installed here in Texas, or in Canada. I like doing my homework on this stuff, it keeps me from having made the wrong decisions, which I can say I rarely do because of knowing what to do from asking questions and getting answers from this forum and posters like you. Thanks to everyone who helps.

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Old 11-09-2018, 08:22 PM   #6
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Don't forget that if you go without the lift kit option it is a fairly easy thing to add later if you wish to.
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Old 11-09-2018, 09:56 PM   #7
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Your tow vehicle is pretty much like mine, I think I'd rather have the high lift axle. Which hitch have you decided on and will you have it installed here in Texas, or in Canada. I like doing my homework on this stuff, it keeps me from having made the wrong decisions, which I can say I rarely do because of knowing what to do from asking questions and getting answers from this forum and posters like you. Thanks to everyone who helps.

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There doesn't seem to be a right or wrong answer on the hitch - the 5.0TA is so relatively light that any 5th wheel hitch will easily handle it. Many forum members use and really like the Andersen Ultimate - check it out if you're not already familiar with it. I haven't decided which hitch yet - they haven't yet come out with a bracket kit for mounting hitch rails in the 2019 Ram because it's so new, they should become available within the next couple of months. I'll probably get the hitch installed in Austin, but many people have had it done at Trademasters in Chilliwack and speak very highly of them.
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Old 11-10-2018, 09:31 AM   #8
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For no reason other then a personal preference and I like the design better, I would rather have the type that fits the factory pin. You can back up and slide into the hitch and latch up, rather then have to line up on a ball which requires being dead center, not that the pin type doesn't require being just about right-on. There is a reason why 5th wheels have this pin and not a ball type hitch, is it because it better, safer, cheaper, what's the reason over the ball type. I'm not going for less expensive, I want what's best and works the best. If weight is the problem then I have a Cherry-Picker which I can use to lift the hitch out of the bed if need be, so I don't see that weight is a problem. Which type do you use and why.

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Old 11-10-2018, 09:35 AM   #9
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For no reason other then a personal preference and I like the design better, I would rather have the type that fits the factory pin. You can back up and slide into the hitch and latch up, rather then have to line up on a ball which requires being dead center, not that the pin type doesn't require being just about right-on. There is a reason why 5th wheels have this pin and not a ball type hitch, is it because it better, safer, cheaper, what's the reason over the ball type. I'm not going for less expensive, I want what's best and works the best. If weight is the problem then I have a Cherry-Picker which I can use to lift the hitch out of the bed if need be, so I don't see that weight is a problem. Which type do you use and why.

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I used a standard Reese 5th wheel hitch for 15 years on our old truck and was happy with it except that it did not articulate side to side like most hitches do now, and in uneven campsites that made hitching/unhitching tough a few times. I have been looking at getting a new standard double articulating fifth wheel hitch - there are a number of different brands that all have comparable models.
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Old 11-10-2018, 10:22 AM   #10
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I used a standard Reese 5th wheel hitch for 15 years on our old truck and was happy with it except that it did not articulate side to side like most hitches do now, and in uneven campsites that made hitching/unhitching tough a few times. I have been looking at getting a new standard double articulating fifth wheel hitch - there are a number of different brands that all have comparable models.
Thanks David, let us know what you pick for your hitch, it will interesting on which one you go with, I would like to know. I've been looking at all the hitches on etrailer, but I see they don't sell Anderson hitches.

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