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Old 04-30-2017, 03:32 PM   #1
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I doubt it is going to be much good for towing but one could hope. Sounds like just a big Forester.

From the reveal page: "The Ascent SUV Concept is the preview of a spacious, versatile, family-sized SUV with three rows of flexible seating. The concept vehicle features a 2.4-liter Direct-Injection Turbocharged SUBARU BOXER® engine paired with Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive, a configurable interior with true 7-passenger seating capability, and outstanding ground clearance for all of the family’s daily adventures."
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Old 11-28-2017, 10:21 PM   #2
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Just unveiled at the LA car show- tows up to 5000 lbs. Didn't hear any pricing info, listed as a 2019. So comparable I imagine to the Highlander and Pilot.
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Old 11-29-2017, 12:17 AM   #3
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Presenting the 2019 Subaru Ascent SUV | Subaru
and in the brochure.

According to the brochure, you need at least the Premium trim level for the 5,000 pound towing capacity, and notes that "Trailer brakes may be required" and "See your retailer for details" (which will likely be futile).

This is a large vehicle, substantially longer in wheelbase (117") than a Highlander or Pilot, and even slightly longer in wheelbase than a Tahoe/Yukon.
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What I don't understand is why they insist on loading these vehicles with extra seats in order to get the greater tow rating. Same with Hyundai and Toyota Highlander.
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Same motor, just turbo charged. Hopefully the 200 lb tongue weight will be higher.
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It appears to be a large improvement over currently offered models from competing manufacturers.
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Old 11-29-2017, 01:33 PM   #7
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Same motor, just turbo charged.
... which makes a huge difference. Think of this as two-thirds of a Ford EcoBoost 3.5 V6; that EcoBoost 3.5 can can handle twice what this SUV will weigh with a 5000 pound trailer.

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Hopefully the 200 lb tongue weight will be higher.
Subaru gets a lot of flak for only allowing 200 pounds on the hitch with a 2600 pound trailer weight (instead of the expected 260 pounds), but with a 5000 pound allowed trailer weight, the allowed tongue weight will obviously be more than 200 pounds. It may be a year before we see how much more.
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Old 11-29-2017, 01:38 PM   #8
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... which makes a huge difference. Think of this as two-thirds of a Ford EcoBoost 3.5 V6; that EcoBoost 3.5 can can handle twice what this SUV will weigh with a 5000 pound trailer.


Subaru gets a lot of flak for only allowing 200 pounds on the hitch with a 2600 pound trailer weight (instead of the expected 260 pounds), but with a 5000 pound allowed trailer weight, the allowed tongue weight will obviously be more than 200 pounds. It may be a year before we see how much more.
interesting info.

my gut hunch is that a turbo engine would not provide tons more torque, especially when you need it (merging into a busy CA freeway towing a 21' Escape)

our Acura MDX is fine for towing our 21' but our next tow vehicle will have more HP and more torque - i want to be able to scamper up mountains and even more quickly merge into freeways.

looking seriously at Audi Q7. My better 1/2 insists on midsize SUV and given our lifestyle, i can't argue.

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Old 11-29-2017, 01:55 PM   #9
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The all-new Direct-Injection Turbocharged SUBARU BOXER® engine delivers 260 hp and 277 lb.-ft. of torque. And with 19.3 gallons of fuel capacity, it puts almost any destination within reach.
I don't know how that compares to a Highlander or Pilot. My 2012 Forester is 170/174, turbo in the same year was 220/224.
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What I don't understand is why they insist on loading these vehicles with extra seats in order to get the greater tow rating. Same with Hyundai and Toyota Highlander.
... and Volkswagen. The largest VW SUV is the Atlas, which has the same wheelbase, length, and width as the Subaru Ascent (within a fraction of an inch), the same 5,000 pound towing capacity (when equipped with the V6 engine)... and three rows of seating.

I think it's simply that the largest model with the most sustained power and highest suspension capacity exists to accommodate three rows of seating, and those same characteristics (of size, powertrain, and suspension) also provide the best towing capacity. Towing capacity is secondary to passenger capacity in marketing of these vehicles.
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