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Old 05-08-2014, 07:34 PM   #21
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Anyone getting tires for their trailer can get most of their questions answered from tire professionals at reputable tire stores. They will advise, balance, and mount your tires. Leave it to the pros.
Or go to ETI.
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Old 05-08-2014, 08:48 PM   #22
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:45 PM   #23
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Anyone getting tires for their trailer can get most of their questions answered from tire professionals at reputable tire stores. They will advise, balance, and mount your tires. Leave it to the pros.
Or go to ETI.
The trick here is finding a competent professional at a reputable tire store. There are lots of people selling tires who really have no clue about tires - they get away with this because most tire sales are just direct replacement of a tire with the same size and type. Some major and well-regarded chains publish outright misinformation, presumably just due to error rather than malicious intent.

In other discussions (in other forums) it has become apparent that many "professionals" at major tire stores don't balance trailer tires at all.

Even if leaving all the work to the pros - in any profession - it is in the consumer's interest to have some understanding of what is being done, if only to catch errors resulting from glitches in communication.
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Old 05-08-2014, 10:16 PM   #24
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Come on. I read those forums on another sites and the professionals weren't professionals. One has to talk to a dealership not a discount tire, ladder and sofa shop. If the reputable tire shop's owner has been in business for ten years I say trust him over the non professional tire recommenders on this forum.
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:19 PM   #25
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Come on. I read those forums on another sites and the professionals weren't professionals
This appears to be a misreading of my statement, quoted below. Perhaps I was not clear. I did not state, or even mean to suggest, that tire professionals are found in forums. I was only trying to report that businesses presumably accepted as "tire professionals" by reasonable people (trailer owners) did not balance trailer tires, thus failing to do as J Mac says they will.
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In other discussions (in other forums) it has become apparent that many "professionals" at major tire stores don't balance trailer tires at all.
So, is Discount Tire - despite the "discount" name - a reputable tire (and not ladder or sofa) shop? It is huge, well regarded by at least some customers, and has been in business for over five times the required decade. Its website publishes blatantly incorrect speed ratings for trailer tires, and its staff refuses to correct the error. Sure, go to the "professionals"... but take accountability for your decisions, rather than blindly trusting them.

Understanding is good.
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:38 PM   #26
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I'm not familiar with Discount Tire. I didn't read the word professional in the other forums either so I suggest Brian that we all refer to ETI for tire questions. Leave the wholesalers and retailers out of it. After all, we trust ETI with electrical, propane, solar, plumbing, breaks etc. A simple call to ETI on the recommended tires and pressure should suffice. Why not use the tires ETI uses?

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Old 05-09-2014, 08:40 AM   #27
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I think it's fascinating how discussions wander. The original post was simply about "looking for opinions on a replacement tire". Although the intent may have only been to discuss brands, an alternate size was mentioned, and thus we got into an explanation of just how much a size change would affect the ride height of the trailer. That led to questions about how tires specs work, and now it seems that we have some better-informed members. Now the topic seems to be what we are allowed to think about, a far more Orwellian take on travel trailer chat!

I agree that simply using the same size, type, and even brand as the original equipment is appropriate; however, if that were the only possibility for the original poster, then this thread would have no reason to exist. If no discussion of alternatives is allowed, then why do we have the forum? Escape Trailer Industries is known for accommodating owners' requests for custom features, each of which is a departure from specification of the original. Even listed options are inherently different from the original spec, and some of those were not offered until prospective owners dared to ask about them.

Yes, there are people with more experience than us in tire selection, and there are even qualified professionals (who generally work for tire and auto manufacturers, not retailers and not RV manufacturers). They should be consulted, but they are not the only people allowed to discuss the topic - no more than electrical engineers are the only people allowed to discuss a battery or inverter choice, no more than plumbers are the only people allowed to discuss how (or even if) to install a toilet shutoff valve.

The 2004 17' came with ST205/75R14 tires (according to the original poster). The base equipment on a new 17' is ST205/75R15 (according to the ETI features page). Either Reace was wrong in 2004, or he's wrong now... or perhaps we can accept that there is no single correct answer to the question of tire size, and a discussion is appropriate. Anyone who is not comfortable considering the alternatives need not participate.


I am listening, and I am hearing "how dare you question The Word of Reace". I respect Reace greatly, but I don't see why all of his design decisions are fair game for discussion in this forum except for some select topics deemed by certain members to be inviolable. So far, we have suspension and tires, in case anyone is keeping a blacklist.

So, has anyone actually asked Reace if a 2004 17' should stay with the original ST205/75R14 or update to the current ST205/75R15, or if there is any guidance he might have regarding size, type, or brand?
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Old 05-09-2014, 08:49 AM   #28
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I have a 2004 17B and I'm looking for opinions on a replacement tire. I currently have Goodyear Marathon Radials. The tire size is ST205/75R14.
You have mentioned the brand (Goodyear Marathon), construction type (radial), size (205/75R14), and type (ST). Is there any particular aspect that you are considering changing... and if so, what are you looking to improve?

I note that the current tire supplied by ETI with the 17' is a ST205/75R15 (15" wheel instead of 14"); are you interested in opinions regarding an update to the current spec, such as information about whether or not it would be appropriate for the earlier trailer? Note: this change would raise the trailer about 1/2"; it would also allow an inflation pressure a couple of PSI lower for the same load capacity (although trailer tire pressure selection is controversial).
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:02 AM   #29
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Hi: All... A quick scan of ETI Trailers/Features shows all standard tires now are 15". ST205/75R15 with the exception of the 5.0 using ST225/75R15's. I believe Reace did this to standardize across the production line. I changed my wheels as the white ones had appeal and rust issues. Good time to install new tires too!!! Alf
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:43 AM   #30
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Brian, calm down. It was simply mentioned that if in doubt replace with original equipment.
If you're not comfortable with that as an alternative you need not participate?!?
Forums are discussion platforms. We don't have to agree.
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