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Old 03-08-2015, 11:50 AM   #31
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My answer to the backing up thing: look out your rear views. If you see your trailer sticking out too far in one direction, turn the steering wheel that way. And don't rush. As one who is left/right challenged, this hint changed me from one who wouldn't even try to a confident backer. You don't have to worry about where your hands are on the wheel, either.
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Old 03-08-2015, 12:27 PM   #32
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I keep both hands on the top of the wheel. Where my thumb points is the direction the trailer is going.
Which thumb?

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Old 03-08-2015, 03:05 PM   #33
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I keep both hands on the top of the wheel. Where my thumb points is the direction the trailer is going.
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Which thumb?
I had the same thought
My guess is that the idea is that moving the top of the wheel in the direction a thumb is pointing moves the trailer to that side... but that just means that the trailer moves in the same direction as the top of the steering wheel, right?
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My answer to the backing up thing: look out your rear views. If you see your trailer sticking out too far in one direction, turn the steering wheel that way. And don't rush.
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You don't have to worry about where your hands are on the wheel, either.
I find the same thing.

Sticking with the mirrors, rather than switching back and forth between mirrors and looking directly (over a shoulder) reduces orientation issues. When I switch between the mirror view and a direct view, I do it while stopped, and pause to make sure I'm properly oriented before moving again.

A backup camera normally has a reversed view, so it works like looking through a mirror, so it can be used with the mirrors without confusion.
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Many ways of accomplishing the same thing. I keep both hands on the top of the wheel. Where my thumb points is the direction the trailer is going.
I don't get this either. First, which thumb and second do you turn the wheel in the direction that that thumb is pointing? When I hold the wheel, my thumb is generally pointing forward.

I also use mirrors. Because I can't see through the trailer.
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When I hold the wheel, my thumb is generally pointing forward.
You're presumably wrapping your thumb around the rim of the wheel, like you're holding a baseball bat. The alternative is to lay your thumb along the rim, like you're holding a golf club. It doesn't matter in most driving situations, but in some off-road and racing situations it can be important to avoid wrapping your thumbs around the rim because a severe kickback of the wheel (due to hitting a rock or curb or crashing, depending on the situation) can break a thumb. When just spinning the wheel in tight manoeuvers, avoiding wrapping your thumbs around can keep them from catching on the wheel's spokes.

While we're on the subject of holding the wheel...
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I keep both hands on the top of the wheel.
This is fine for backing up the trailer, and I know that's the current topic of discussion, but please don't do this while driving on the road. Donna, I assume you don't anyway, but the mention brings up an opportunity for a caution. Aside from providing poor steering control, the airbag mounted in the wheel can cause serious arm and face injuries if the driver's arm is across the middle of the wheel when a crash triggers the airbag.
I don't want to bog this discussion down further, but those interested might do a Google search for airbag injury hands on top of wheel" (and of course read what you find with appropriate skepticism).

Normally, a driver's hands should be at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock, with the thumbs laid along the rim or on spokes or bumps in the wheel designed for this purpose.
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Which thumb?

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Where the thumb is pointing. When using this method, I don't grip the wheel with my thumbs wrapped around the steering wheel, but laying along side. Hey, it works for me.

I've tried the bottom of the wheel, palm up. Not so good for me.

That's what this is about... what works for each. LOL
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...Donna, I assume you don't anyway, but the mention brings up an opportunity for a caution. Aside from providing poor steering control, the airbag mounted in the wheel can cause serious arm and face injuries if the driver's arm is across the middle of the wheel when a crash triggers the airbag.
If you're wearing glasses you can plan on getting a broken nose and two black eyes when the airbag goes off.

Brian, don't worry about me. I had professional driving lessons, because I used to give out tickets.
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Old 03-08-2015, 04:19 PM   #39
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Where the thumb is pointing. When using this method, I don't grip the wheel with my thumbs wrapped around the steering wheel, but laying along side. Hey, it works for me.

I've tried the bottom of the wheel, palm up. Not so good for me.

That's what this is about... what works for each. LOL
But you said "both hands on the wheel" and that means two thumbs, presumably pointed in two different directions. I still don't get it

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Normally, a driver's hands should be at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock, with the thumbs laid along the rim or on spokes or bumps in the wheel designed for this purpose.
I was taught 10 and 2 for the position on the steering wheel.
And, now, right now, I'm watching "Fifth Gear" on Discovery Velocity channel ( all cars, all the time ) and I can't help but watch how they hold the steering wheel.
So far, all of them ( racing drivers, auto journalists, etc. ) are holding the wheel so that their thumbs wrap around the wheel, not on the spokes.
I think the fear of dislocating your thumb when hitting a bump or such comes from experience with John Deere tractors, not with power steering equipped vehicles of today.
(LATER ) different drivers hold the wheel differently. Some wrap thumb and some do not. Now, I can't watch TV without looking at thumbs and wondering if arthritis has an effect.

Anyway, still waiting to hear an explanation from Donna that accounts for having two thumbs.
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